"That optimism is the main reason why I have to be so blunt. People just think we're gonna get out of this so easily, but the truth is, we're gonna be in this for a long while," George said, losing the smile he had.

"Maybe it's bad for me to be so negative all the time though. We do have things to be greatful for. We have a decent amount of cash, and in two years we'll be free of the curse of Hoover," he said, the smile returning.

(OCC: I'll be back on in a half-hour at the latest)