Insanity Isle OOC - Battles for Entertainment and Freedom.

[tirgesfu]

Insanity Isle OOC - Battles for Entertainment and Freedom.

(Training for arena style fighting for tirgesfu and Lillian Thorne by one of the masters, Lyzan. This thread is for their use only.)

Just on horizon, where the blue of the sea touched the blue of the sky, the island came into view. For days they had sailed each chained and strapped against timbers that just like them, once stood proud. The lumber creaked and squeaked against the pounding of salt splashes and the rolling of waves. The only other sounds where the hissed, snarls, and roars of covered crates. Those chained across from the hidden cages said little.

They were the strongest of the defeated ones. Heading toward a place whispered about around the battle field fires. The question asked before each battle by some wide eyed warrior was, “Would you rather be killed or taken to Insanity Isle?” No one ever spoke of the reason. But all knew once taken there the only way out was championship or death.

Those upon the ship did not know each other, did not fight the same battles and often did not even speak the same dialect. They were taken from all across the continent all the battles and wars fought between all sorts of parties. They were sold for this purpose, this trip, this finally series of battles. The crates held unknown creatures for unknown reasons. But the sounds and rattles that came from them left little doubt of their purpose.

The fights were for the enjoyment of a few. Like all wars and all battles only those at the highest level win. The winner enjoyed watching the strength spent by others. And so the story goes. From the battle fields for home and family to the arena for entertainment.

[Lyzan]

Character Sheet


Saidah

Profile

Spoiler

>>>>>>>Character Profile:


Identity:

>> Full Name: Saidah
>> Alias: --
>> Titles: --
>> Style of Combat: --
>> Apparent Age:
>> Factual Age:
>> Profession: --
>> Alignment: --
>> Marital Status: Single
>> Sex: Female
>> Status: Alive.
>> Deity: --
>> Height:
>> Weight:
>> Hair:
>> Eye:

Description:
Family:
>> Father: ???
>> Mother: ???

>>>>>>> Possessions:

Weapons:
>> WEAPON:

Armor:
>> ARMOR:

Other:

>> RANDOM STUFF:

>>>>>>> Combat Skills:

Proficiencies:

>> Archery:
>> Daggers:
>> Maces:

>> Polearms:
>> Staves:
>> Swords:
>> Unarmed:
>> Projectiles:
>> Whips:
>> Shields:
>> Hammers:
>> Axes:
>> Spears:

>>>>>>> Style Description:

>>>>>>> Proficiency Level:
>> Extremely poor.
>> Poor.

>> Learning.
>> Learned.
>> Sufficient.
>> Excellent.
>> Perfected.
>> Mastered.
>> Surreal.
>> Godly.

>>>>>>> Backstory:


>>>>>>> Flaws: --

Jaymz

Profile

Spoiler

>>>>>>>Character Profile:



Identity:

>> Full Name: Jaymz

>> Alias: --
>> Titles: --
>> Style of Combat: --
>> Apparent Age:
>> Factual Age:
>> Profession: --
>> Alignment: --
>> Marital Status: Single
>> Sex: Male
>> Status: Alive.
>> Deity: --
>> Height:
>> Weight:
>> Hair:
>> Eye:

Description:
Family:
>> Father: ???
>> Mother: ???

>>>>>>> Possessions:

Weapons:
>> WEAPON:

Armor:
>> ARMOR:

Other:

>> RANDOM STUFF:

>>>>>>> Combat Skills:

Proficiencies:

>> Archery:
>> Daggers:
>> Maces:

>> Polearms:
>> Staves:
>> Swords:
>> Unarmed:
>> Projectiles:
>> Whips:
>> Shields:
>> Hammers:
>> Axes:
>> Spears:

>>>>>>> Style Description:

>>>>>>> Proficiency Level:
>> Extremely poor.
>> Poor.

>> Learning.
>> Learned.
>> Sufficient.
>> Excellent.
>> Perfected.
>> Mastered.
>> Surreal.
>> Godly.

>>>>>>> Backstory:

>>>>>>> Flaws: --

Update will be made as we progress.
Do tell if you wish to add anything.

[Lyzan]

Guides/Tips

A shield is usually placed in the less prefered hand. Meaning, if you're right-handed; the shield would be on the left & vice-versa. (It's purpose is to protect the heart, so, being in the left hand is common)

So initially, Jaymz started off with the shield being in his left, which is not shackled in the first place. Unless if you're left handed as well. Besides, it would be awkward for him to be holding it in his right and defending against the thug who was hitting Jaymz's left side earlier. The posture would probably throw him off-balance when the first strike came. Not to mention, Saidah had to extend her left arm to cover the reach as well due to the chain. (makes sense?)

Full-helmet; (full-faced helmet) here, a full helmet basically covered the wearer's entire head as well as the face. (like in the gladiator movie) So it will be a man with an overgrown head. There'll be no skin expose. (thus, a slicing attempt without having a blunt force behind it would do little to no damage on the helmet.)
However, since Saidah is using the pommel (blunt force), it would cause damage if the strike landed. Jamyz shield would also cause damage, (cutting edge as well as a blunt force)

Alright, here's some. But do tell if you wanted to know something specific.

Basically, in the arena, when A strikes at B's abdomen (for example). The post A writes has yet to connect and it's as if he's asking B for a permission to connect it. When B posts a reply, he'll state if the swings had missed from his evasion, through logic explanation or had struck him if he couldn't think of a way to dodge the strike. So, B's reply would set the motion going, he'll have control over the strike of A just like how the thug escapes from both assault.

Here's some key factors or flaws to look out for from the thug's (counter) post. Take note that he'd taken a step back before he made the strike, resulting in cutting short the distance for his blade to connect. Since it's a normal sword, the reach should brobably be about three feet. Sword is an extension of one's arm and thus the length was approximated as such. With both Jaymz & Saidah arms already fully stretched, we can then minus the thug's own reach with his arm, leaving now with the sword; but minus from the retreating action the thug had made, the reach of the sword would probably be somewhere about a foot or two towards the mark. (Hope the calculation make sense, here.)

Dodging possibilities, it could be a simple and quick back jump while tucking in the abdomen to simply let the blade either make a scratch over the flesh or entirely missing the target. It's logical since it won't take much for a person to do that thus it'll be accepted. The possibility of saving Saidah from throwing herself could be (as tirgesfu brilliantly did) with the shackle, pulling it back to slow her and probably letting the blade pass. Or, by barring her from advancing with Jaymz's arm.

This way, Jaymz could still be on his feet and better prepared for the following actions. Nonetheless, Jaymz's post is beautiful and it's clearly written. Take advantage of the sparse detail and make assumptions if you must to trap the person you're up against with his own words. We'll come up to that when the time comes.

Those were lovely posts! Just so you know, the post I made there was a reaction to both of your "if" statement. An example as to show how some would react to them. Do take note that the "if" statement could also be turned against you.

For example: If A move forward, B would deliver a horizontal strike to the head.
(here, B had just showed that he/she is vulnerable.)
A could have replied with: As A move forward, A spotted the strike coming for his/her head and ducked under the passing blade before thrusting A's blade towards the belly of B.
(with the if statement in use, the action is carried out because A did move forward, hence triggering B's action.)
However, let's say if: A just stood and threw the knife towards B.
(here, the action made by A couldn't trigger the "if" statement of B and so, B is free to react accordingly since no strike was activated.)

Nice post but before I get to answering that question, I'll point out on a few things.
Position is key in the arena. You've got to be aware of your character's position, your opponent, things that got left behind, how near you are to the wall or etc.. To ensure this, feel free to flip to the previous posts (IC). Re-read them and take a moment to picture them.
Now, I pointed this out to show that Saidah couldn't be still behind Jaymz when he spoke, for she'd moved and you'd acknowledged her moving. Thus, the position had changed. Makes sense? (of course this is not a big matter and could be overlooked easily but be aware that in certain situation, positioning is one of the major key the RPer/fighter would look for)

Now come to your question. The statement said that he'd fallen to his knees and nothing further and in the arena, you're not allowed to control the other guy's PC until you'd their permission to do so. Right here, the thug could still be kneeling, hence Jaymz action didn't take place. However, you could assume them and see if the following post could fit that post.

Sidenote: When the belly is cut open, a man could still live for a couple of hours more. A painful and a slow death though. He could be sitting and very much still be aware of his surroundings before dying.

Therefore, the thug won't be falling to the ground anytime soon. Hope I've answered you.

Oh btw, if there's anything on my post that's confusing or failed to convey the picture intended, do tell.

Tips 1

[Lyzan]

Score-Records

Damage: 30 points Max
Strategy/Tactics: 30 points Max
Creativity: 30 points Max

IC Ability: 5 points Max
Imagery/Prose: 5 points Max

Disclaimer; I like Rilla's rubric system
so I'll use his for the time being
until I've developed my own.

Jaymz VS Bernbar (Post no. 72 ~ 79)

Spoiler

Jaymz

Damage: 18 - You've managed to land two strikes throughout the fight. A cut to the arm followed by a fatal blow in the bear's soft sides. You score big with that final blow.
Strategy/Tactics: 20 - Circling the bear makes you a harder target. The hit and run tactics worked very well when dealing with something bigger and stronger. Good job.
Creativity: 16 - I like the dodging maneuvre you've made. It'd reward you with the death blow in return from that performance. However, there's still room for improvement. Very nice.

IC Ability: 5 - Perfect portrayal of Jaymz. Clearly showing how new he was to the whole fighting for his life thing.
Imagery/Prose:

3 - I've got a very clear picture of his character and the actions he did. But there's still room for improvement.
Total: 62

Bernbar

Damage: 22 - Damage done to shield-arm, bite made contact & extra points earned for causing damage to Jaymz's legs.
Strategy/Tactics: 17 - Simple bulling towards prey in hope to overpower Jaymz with mere brute strength and size.

Creativity: 14 - Nothing out of the extraordinary was made.
IC Ability: 3

Imagery/Prose:

3
Total: 59

Winner: Jaymz

Remarks: Frankly, I enjoyed the match despite of it being only about 8 posts length. There's a show of courage and very good footwork. Try not to go too far out with your actions. Give some time for your partner to respond before continuing further. For example, when you punch the target, allow the target to respond to it before you move away from the location. He might recieve the hit, he might dodge or he might interrupt the attack hence rendering your following movement out of play. Focus on the pacing.

Saidah VS Jaymz -spar- (Post no. 91 ~ 107)

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Alright, before you start reading them results, please keep in mind that the remarks are from my point of views and that it is as good as a reminder for me since I too sometimes make those mistakes. So don't take it too hard or too serious. And please, no eye rolling.. *chuckles*

Below is a rubric judging systems which I'd come up with. It may be the same as some other arena judges but with a slight different... I think..

In any case, brace yourselves.. *evil grin*
(Marks are given from Posts 91 to 107)

And I should've told you this earlier but all images on both characters are wiped clean from my mind as the RP changes mode into an Arena match.
(Just so that I could be a better judge and one of the reasons why I hadn't mention this is because, you'll remember to do so the next time, after reading this.. *chuckles* Cruel aren't I, I know... Every new battle we go into, it's necessary for us to ensure that our partner and the judge as well as the readers get an image of how our PC looks like..)

Imagery:
(This is based on how you did with describing your PC and stage as well as your observation on your opponent. Opponent observation = Keep in mind that this is my special point/training specialty -where you've to truly see what your opponent have- so it'll be different from most judging requirement and style of most fighters.)

The first post in an arena is usually the description of your character. To give your partner a grasp on how your PC looked like, to tell which hand is your master-hand/leg and the weapon brought in as well as how the stage looks like. Details are important here. Also, no preparation or attacks should be done in the first move aside than what is already stated. (just for your info.)

*Saidah - I couldn't get a clear image from the first post aside from how she seemed to look like she's lost some weight. But I do like the fighting stance she took and it is delivered very nicely and I got the weapon she's using too.
- I'd left her attire vague for you to design it as you wish. Footwears or the way the hair is tied wasn't written as well.
- Down the next few posts, nothing much about your partner's PC is mentioned as well.

Score = 2/5

*Jaymz - Unfortunately, aside from the weapon in his hand and the stance that'd taken, there's nothing else that could boost you any higher than Lillian.
- It seems that both are concentrating more on character development (which is not an issue really) but neglected the arena "mojo" or the sorts. (which is the main target)
- But I do notice how you've described how her limbs might have looked like which if I remembered correctly wasn't as accurate according to Lillian's explaination in the OOC.

Score = 2/5

(I'm sure when come the next round, this score would definitely be much higer.)

Damage:
(This one is based on how much damage you manage to land, the way it was executed and it's style.)

*Saidah - The berserker's kick/flare is my favorite. Nicely delivered.
-The other damage would be with her nails. Aside from that, there wasn't much being thrown out.

Score = 13/20

*Jaymz - There are a couple of hits landed with the axe there. Nice work.
- However, be careful with those grabs. A grab is considered to be an attack and is needed to wait for your partner's confirmation. They could still have a chance to get out of it, so do bear that in mind. I didn't point this out since Lillian made no comment on it at all and seems to rather enjoy it by going along with the flow.. *chuckles* In other words, without you realizing it, you've launched quite a few autohits/godmodding there. Given that it would go pretty well in an RP, the same could not be said in the arena, sadly.
- Remember that in an arena, no actions is confirmed just yet until the other responded. (therefore, look for those tenses in your post)
- And that hair pulling moves really made me chuckled by the way..

Score = 14/20

(Your posts aside from the intro should best be, defend/evade followed by a counter attack. Unless you're dazed from the hit then a counter may not work thus what you can do is retreat. Also, avoid going into grapple if you're not familiar with them. There are ways to make your opponent submit even when on ground. Example, MMA fights or wrestling. Strikes are usually delivered with the intent to force your opponent into taking the hit instead of having your partner willingly take it. -most arena fighters won't easily give away such points without an exchange or if it's too simple, especially in a tournament- Also, give your partner a rough idea why that strike is an issue for them. For example; "If the kick landed true, it'll probably fracture a couple of rib bones. Give an idea of how painful it might be.)

Defensive:

*Saidah - Aside from moving towards an attack and lessening the impact by doing so, there's not much defensive move made.
- Again, it may be due to your PC incapability but do show some signs for brace or the sorts. Exaggerate them if you must for it'll bring more excitement to the bout.
- I can relate to her berserk mode not needing to defend herself though.
- Nonetheless, there're some effort made towards the end.

Score = 14/20

*Jaymz - A couple of defensive moves made. The pulling of hair to avoid her bites being one of them.
-The other would be the last minute twist so you would fall on the sides rather than on the back. Nicely done.

Score = 16/20

(Here is where you focused on lessening the damage dealt. Preventing from suffering as much as you should've been by bracing for impact, bringing down the forearms or the sorts, using of weapons to block, etc.. Sometimes you could turn the table around after a defend and launch a counter-attack. Which might earn you some points in other areas. From a bigger picture, it goes hand in hand with evasion, depending on how your partner comes at you. It is sometimes necessary to prolong the fight and keep it going a little longer as you work in getting more points.)

Evasion:

*Saidah - Here's where I'm having trouble with. No matter how many times I read over, there seemed to be no clear evasion ever being attempted.
- Again, I could relate with her berserk mode having no need to do so though.
- But that flare was somewhat an evasive manouver in my opinion.

Score = 11/20

*Jaymz - There's a dodge made after Lillian's first strike followed by a counter. Nicely done and delivered.
- Other than that, there's no other noticeable ones.

Score = 13/20

(It's not necessarily for one to take every hit that comes your way in order to make the fight interesting. Dodge however way you can if it's logical. Stumble if you must to stay in character or the sorts. It'll turn out entertaining if you knew how to play with it. Near misses always gives the thrill to readers. Also, as mentioned in the defensive section, this too could provide a counter-attack as well as works hand in hand defensively.)

Strategy:

*Saidah - Noticeable strategy from the first strike. An attempt at playing hit and run.
- Then a switch in her approach as he entered berserk mode. Nicely done.

Score = 9/15

*Jaymz - Your counters work pretty well to adapt to the situation.
- then it turned defensive.

Score = 10/15

(Different people reacts differently to the same strike. Study the opponent's character and recognize which category they're in. Will they be the aggressor or will they be defensive. Test them out by swinging or thrusting but be ready to leap out of the way. Be the opposite of their nature but keep in mind to alter your approach. It might take them off guard.)

Creativity:

*Saidah - You scored big with that sudden change of her mode.
- Her change in her form of attack, wild and aggressive but not entirely without elegance is interesting.

Score = 13/15

*Jaymz - Your use of the axe is good. The intention of wanting to land a hit but not wanting to hurt her (sort of) gives you some points here.

Score = 9/15

(This is my favorite department. Study what's on your opponent. The type of clothes, accessories and their weapons. Clothes could help you achieve a successful grabbing moves, accessories like chain could be used against them and their weapons might be useful for you to use as well. Then comes the arena ground. Sands can be kicked, walls to aid you, pillars, potholes and the sorts.. There're also other elements that may be used and the most resourceful one is your PC themselves. Acrobats, some unexpected bulling or somewhat like such.)

IC ability:

*Saidah - One word; perfect.

Score = 5/5

*Jaymz - The same can be said with you.

Score = 5/5

(This here is pretty obvious. Stay in-character. I find this easy to score with talented RPers compared to some arena-based RPers..)

TOTAL SCORE

*Saidah = 67/100
*Jaymz = 69/100


Very close match that was. I hope what was commented is somewhat helpful and clear rather than confusing. Feel free to provide me with feedbacks on whether the system helps you understand where your strength and weaknesses are. Also, if there's any comments or questions for me, don't hesitate to just ask and I shall do my best to answer or reply to.

[Lillian Thorne]

Well I have one post up for you and the site is behaving for now. I will probably wait on Fallen feathers and get this one up (if you don't mind).

[tirgesfu]

You know, I was a bit worried that – I don’t get the Matrix part – and the skill level. Not only do I not know how to fight, I never play the RP board games, and don’t play video games. I am so out of my comfort zone that I am just basking in the unfamiliarly. It’s sort of cool.

I'm like clay in your hands. (sort of)

[Lillian Thorne]

The IC is up, let me know if it's what was wanted there. I am having odd doubts...

IC

[tirgesfu]

Yours was great. And mine, different. You have the history I don't. It was a fun read, one than the other. Think this will be a good time.

[Lyzan]

I don't mind Lillian and that was a great post. As I said, this will be like any other RP we've played, so give it all you got.
And tirgesfu, let's just say that you're learning self-defence through texts.. (if that makes any sense..) ..and I'm the torturer teacher.. lol.

I'll get to it as soon as I've replied to the list of RP that needs attending to.

[Lyzan]

The post is up.. Not too sure if it's ...presentable, though..