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    Just to make sure I get army composition right... an army consists of companies. Companies are usually sized between 50 and 100 units. Those 50 to 100 units can be different units, e.g. 20*Tier 2 soldiers with specialization in Swords, 20*Tier 1 soldiers with spec in Bows, etc. In all of this, the General can command a company himself, which, if the specializations match, may lead to improved performances for the troops.

    If a General who goes for a Unique Unit via Special Trait can get a one-hundred unit sized company, then I take it all 100 units are the same since a General can't create more than this one unit via its Special Trait? Or does that depend on the way the Special Trait is 'worded'?

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    Yes, a general can lead multiple companies. Companies are designed so that each unit 'group' will be having the same exp bar to rid confusion just in case your entire army's exp gauge turns confusing. However, each company can only be of similar tiered units, but the unit types does not matter. That said, for example you can have 20 ranged T1s, 20 melee T1s, 20 mounted T1s all in one company. T2s can only be grouped together with other T2s and so on.

    And yes, if your General has matching specializations, the units he leads will have improved performances. There is no specific numeral value set yet, (Unsure if necessary either) but I hope that the players would RP it out. (It's fun to see if your character have low proficiencies, he/she would just have no idea how to lead certain unit types)

    Lastly, that is correct as well - since you are only allowed ONE unique unit design - and you are the only player capable of recruiting that unit type. Having more than one design is borderline game breaking, so I cannot allow it. (After all, being able to have multiple unit designs is in the realm of a Sovereign. Generals cannot be a Sovereign unless they decide to declare independence/open rebellion)
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    All right. Will probably have something for you to rip apart up by tomorrow, then. ; )

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    Bumpity bump. Needs more Nation RP interests generated ._.

    Am oddly curious why is the other medieval Nation RPs getting more interest than this, when both are quite the same.

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    That would be the first taste without much background to go with. I'm not sure how the unique unit's Special Trait would work out in terms of having different levels of that Trait, maybe the chance of them emerging where they are needed increases, the time they need to dig through to their enemies decreases, something like that. Going to post up other ideas over the coming days, if only as a mean of bumping the thread up occasionally.

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    There are only a few reasons I can tell that people aren't joining, mainly from watching other Interest Checks in various sections and almost 90% my own speculation...
    So these are most likely wrong, but:
    1. Most people like to know what is a nation RP an what isn't, so most nation RPs that put "Medieval Fantasy Nation RP" in parenthesis in the title seem to attract more attention. Plus, people also seem to be attracted to strange or unique names.
    2. People don't like stats. Some people do, but it seems the majority do not. I'll admit that I am not much of a stat-lover, but I don't dislike them.
    3. In addition to the above presumption, most people do not like to start out at "level one." Of course, this is mostly just my opinion. I don't like to start out at level one, but I can tolerate it.
    4. And, finally, the other nation RPs might be recruiting friends to bolster their numbers.


    Forgive me for being so presumptuous: I am slightly hard-pressed on time and cannot spare some time to rewrite this more elegantly. I hope I may make it up to you. Later. Hopefully.



    Aww, that makes me want to post my own Famed General CS. Though, as I said, I probably won't because I don't have much time. I may do it a in few hours, hopefully.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecos View Post


    That would be the first taste without much background to go with. I'm not sure how the unique unit's Special Trait would work out in terms of having different levels of that Trait, maybe the chance of them emerging where they are needed increases, the time they need to dig through to their enemies decreases, something like that. Going to post up other ideas over the coming days, if only as a mean of bumping the thread up occasionally.
    Very nice character actually. The special skill isn't imbalanced - it's more like a dwarven flanking method. I guess the higher level it goes, the more accurate your units can 'pop out' in their designated coordinates. And there's nothing wrong with your character too! I'd approve it straight-away if this is the OOC hahaha. I hope you enjoyed creating your character ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by Keia Vewyx View Post
    There are only a few reasons I can tell that people aren't joining, mainly from watching other Interest Checks in various sections and almost 90% my own speculation...
    So these are most likely wrong, but:
    1. Most people like to know what is a nation RP an what isn't, so most nation RPs that put "Medieval Fantasy Nation RP" in parenthesis in the title seem to attract more attention. Plus, people also seem to be attracted to strange or unique names.
    2. People don't like stats. Some people do, but it seems the majority do not. I'll admit that I am not much of a stat-lover, but I don't dislike them.
    3. In addition to the above presumption, most people do not like to start out at "level one." Of course, this is mostly just my opinion. I don't like to start out at level one, but I can tolerate it.
    4. And, finally, the other nation RPs might be recruiting friends to bolster their numbers.


    Forgive me for being so presumptuous: I am slightly hard-pressed on time and cannot spare some time to rewrite this more elegantly. I hope I may make it up to you. Later. Hopefully.



    Aww, that makes me want to post my own Famed General CS. Though, as I said, I probably won't because I don't have much time. I may do it a in few hours, hopefully.
    Ahh, well that surely clears up a few questions. I guess I'll need to come up with precise titles. Sadly, I can't seem to 'edit' the post title ._.

    Well, the stats are there to avoid meta-gaming really. It's simply strict only for battles, but for every other aspect of the RP, anything goes. However, as mentioned - it's more of a rough gauge just in case both sides wouldn't back down.

    Well, I get your idea of 'hating to start from scratch', do you think it's better to have players decide the 'size of their kingdom' instead?

    Also, don't worry. I'm honestly happy enough that you're staying around to check on this little RP of mine I'm actually looking forward to your CS as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangebox View Post
    Ahh, well that surely clears up a few questions. I guess I'll need to come up with precise titles. Sadly, I can't seem to 'edit' the post title ._.

    Well, the stats are there to avoid meta-gaming really. It's simply strict only for battles, but for every other aspect of the RP, anything goes. However, as mentioned - it's more of a rough gauge just in case both sides wouldn't back down.

    Well, I get your idea of 'hating to start from scratch', do you think it's better to have players decide the 'size of their kingdom' instead?

    Also, don't worry. I'm honestly happy enough that you're staying around to check on this little RP of mine :) I'm actually looking forward to your CS as well!

    Bah. People should be like me: open up every new thread you see in a new tab (having at least 5 tabs open with RPs I haven't seen before) and judging it after reading it. Heck, it's how I found this little gem.

    Indeed, and it is a good system on paper. Has it been tested, though?

    I believe having a standard (two cities and one capital) and then having their racial advantages and disadvantages decide the unique size is best. In other words, I believe you are doing the best option right now. You may change it if you wish, of course.
    If I could choose everything my way, I'd be a civilization of Darknut-esque super-knights with the disadvantage of "Only starting with the Capital" and "Has half pop. of everything." Half recruits per turn, half city/town populations, half starting soldiers, etc. They'd make up for it with quality soldiers, physical strength, but more importantly an awesome metal industry (keeping rez up despite pop. loss~).
    Though I have tried them before, It was over before it even started.


    A shame it is little interest currently, though. Would the players from before be interested, or no?



    Anyways, as promised, a CS for you:

    Warning, the picture is... large, due to RP Guild not resizing pictures anymore.
    Warning #2, I almost always seem to be turned down when I submit the first profile... huh. Anyways, I'm ready to inevitably change it.
    Warning #3, if I decide to be sovereign... My first attempt would be this guy's race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangebox View Post
    Very nice character actually. The special skill isn't imbalanced - it's more like a dwarven flanking method. I guess the higher level it goes, the more accurate your units can 'pop out' in their designated coordinates. And there's nothing wrong with your character too! I'd approve it straight-away if this is the OOC hahaha. I hope you enjoyed creating your character ;D
    Nice to hear. Of course I enjoyed it. Expect some more sheets over the course of the week till I have decided what to play as.

    Can't really add anything to the 'why doesn't it generate enough interest' topic, I don't have much experience with Nation RPs but think that this concept looks pretty sweet with separating Generals from Sovereigns, and having a basic stat system seems like the sensible thing to have, given the freedom the players have in Nation RPs otherwise.

    @Clifflords: Sounds like, in the unlikely event I end up going for Sovereign with a Dwarven nation, I'd definitely be interested in being one of those former allies the Clifflords had before everyone turned away from them. We shall see~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecos View Post
    Nice to hear. Of course I enjoyed it. Expect some more sheets over the course of the week till I have decided what to play as.
    It would be pretty frightening to be fighting a company, only to have warpicks rip out from the ground and more soldiers rushing out to fight.
    He'd be an awesome ally / frightening enemy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lecos View Post
    @Clifflords: Sounds like, in the unlikely event I end up going for Sovereign with a Dwarven nation, I'd definitely be interested in being one of those former allies the Clifflords had before everyone turned away from them. We shall see~
    We shall see indeed. It would definitely make for some interesting interactions with the surviving Clifflord families, and at the very least with a surviving Clifflord General. But, I'm not entirely sold on the General.
    Like Lecos, there may be more profiles to come.



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