BDB, anyone?

[Goldmarble]

Then how the hell does that make them a vampire then? They are not dead, they are not immortal? That's about as bad of a butcher to vampire lore as making vampires sparkle in the sunlight... -_-

Actually, many of the original vampire myths had vampiric creatures that were not dead/undead, nor immortal. Quite a few did not even prey on humans; The Chupacabra is considered a vampiric spirit/entity itself.

Some were just plain fucking weird:

Ramanga

Ramanga was a living vampire found in Madagascar. It was a servant of tribal elders. The Ramanga would consume the nail clippings and spilled blood of any noble member of a tribe.

Hell, to be strictly honest; Even the parts of "Vampire myth" I loathe...Vampires with Emotions, love, and sex....are all part of actual vampire mythology.

I still hate it though.

[Steampunk]

If you wanna go original myths, then you can go far back as the Utukku, and the Ekimmu, the oldest stories/beliefs of vampires ever, written by the Sumerian's themselves, believing that vampires were Aliens, that feed on life, not blood (some, not all), but what I am talking about is Western vampires of the past minute, what we have turned the myths of " Vampires" into. I for one am a huge fan of Recent Western age vampires, Undead beings living immortal lives, drinking blood, etc etc. What I'm talking about butchering vampire lore I mean we are butchering the vampires WE created... turning them honestly into just sex symbols...

[Gwazi Magnum]

Vampires.

1: I hate the pussy-ass, emotional, non-frightening, wimpy ass bitches they have become in modern rendition and culture.
2: I severely dislike the fandom and obsession with them, much the same as my dislike of lycanthropes, dragons, elves, fairies, and their associated fandoms.
3: I know this ties into #1, but why? Why the fuck do they make vampires so god damn emo? "Oh woe, for I am cursed to this immortality....Nothing can sate my hunger but blood....and sex."
4: I have yet to come across anyone who can give me a single logical reason that male Vampires can have sex without a popsicle stick taped to their dick. Their heart ain't pumping. They don't have blood pressure. It ain't getting up. Ever. Again. Any time I bring this up, please respond with the most inane BS. "Blood Points!" "It just does!" "Magick!"

Sorry...it ain't getting up ever.

That, and the whole fact that all this Vampire Romance = Necrophilia.

It all ties in with my general loathing of the pussification of all monsters in general. Monsters should be frightening because they want you fucking dead. Not pathetic. Not lovable. Not sexy.

I respect the ancient view of monsters.

If I were to have Vampires in a game? They would be cold, calculating, sinister motherfuckers without emotions. Luring people and killing them. No grand scheme. No castles and minions. They just. Want. You. Dead.

Remember, this is not an attack on you, please don't take this personally. This just me expressing my severe dislike, which you did, in all fairness, ask about.

Just had to reply to this comment before leaving for school, I'll come back and read the rest of the thread later.

1. Same, it pisses me the hell off.
2. By that do you mean shit like Twilight Jacob and Elf fan fiction, or do you dislike the general idea of werewolves and J.R.R. Tolkien elves?
3. They're master players maybe? In all honestly though that's just people craving for horny romance in their novels.
4. Blood Buff?

[Blue Tempest]

@Goldmarble

While I do agree that Twilight ruins Vampires, I am NOT against giving Vampires character.

What? you like all vampires to ONLY murdering, scheming monsters? That in itself is seriously a cliche and would get boring fast. Not to mention you seem to equate pussification with character development. I mean think about it, according to Vampire stories, a human is turned into a vampire. And... what he's automatically evil? Why? How does that make any realistic sense (I know it's vampires but bear with me) Why should all monsters just automatically only be monsters? By that logic, us Humans are the worst monsters out of all of them.

Best example I can think of is Angel from Buffy/his own series. He's not a pussy, but he does have character and it's really interesting seeing him struggle against the monster he once was.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Ok, to reply to the rest of you...

Vampires do deserve more character than 'Blood, must have blood', but Twilight shit is NOT the way to go.

[★LunaLight★]

Ok, to reply to the rest of you...

Vampires do deserve more character than 'Blood, must have blood', but Twilight shit is NOT the way to go.

Vampires could be awesome, but this is what I tend to see:

Vampires are overly invested in their emotional problems regardless of the situation. They put their lives at risk needlessly because they would rather kill something or bang it than just talk things out. Seriously, they got to live longer, so you would think they would be smarter than this. This is also what makes me curious why vampires are not at all bothered by the massive age difference. Vampire pedophilia must be the worst concept I've ever had the misfortune of crossing my mind.

Vampires can overcome weaknesses in ways that are far too convenient. Vampires using sunscreen is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard. Really any weakness they have is a non-factor because they are too super powerful to even be hit. Which brings me to the next point.

Vampires have to possess super everything, and only other undead/supernatural are ever put against them. Super speed, super strength, enhanced reaction time, flying, invisibility, control over spirits, immortality, mind control, the ability to turn something else into a vampire, and highly acute senses of smell and sight are all common traits among vampires. The only things vampires ever fight are from the supernatural group, and honestly it gets old.

Vampires rarely take a neutral role, and are color-coded for our convenience. If a vampire is bad, it is really terrible, cruel, and just an all around jerk. If a vampire is good, they are confused and emotional. Seriously, can't someone change it up a little? I would love to see more vampires which act in a way that makes it hard to pin down their motives. The kind that might love someone one day, and kill them the next. Maybe a little guilt is good, but nobody wants to hear the 'because I'm a vampire' speech.

Vampires have the lousiest target audience ever. There is a reason all of the above things are happening, and it is all their fault for relating to such emotionally unstable characters.

[Blue Tempest]

I blame the film Interview with a Vampire, luring women in with Vampire Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and Antonio Banderas.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Vampires could be awesome, but this is what I tend to see:

Vampires are overly invested in their emotional problems regardless of the situation. They put their lives at risk needlessly because they would rather kill something or bang it than just talk things out. Seriously, they got to live longer, so you would think they would be smarter than this. This is also what makes me curious why vampires are not at all bothered by the massive age difference. Vampire pedophilia must be the worst concept I've ever had the misfortune of crossing my mind.

Vampires can overcome weaknesses in ways that are far too convenient. Vampires using sunscreen is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard. Really any weakness they have is a non-factor because they are too super powerful to even be hit. Which brings me to the next point.

Vampires have to possess super everything, and only other undead/supernatural are ever put against them. Super speed, super strength, enhanced reaction time, flying, invisibility, control over spirits, immortality, mind control, the ability to turn something else into a vampire, and highly acute senses of smell and sight are all common traits among vampires. The only things vampires ever fight are from the supernatural group, and honestly it gets old.

Vampires rarely take a neutral role, and are color-coded for our convenience. If a vampire is bad, it is really terrible, cruel, and just an all around jerk. If a vampire is good, they are confused and emotional. Seriously, can't someone change it up a little? I would love to see more vampires which act in a way that makes it hard to pin down their motives. The kind that might love someone one day, and kill them the next. Maybe a little guilt is good, but nobody wants to hear the 'because I'm a vampire' speech.

Vampires have the lousiest target audience ever. There is a reason all of the above things are happening, and it is all their fault for relating to such emotionally unstable characters.

This makes me eager to make a vampire character in either d&d, a forum roleplay or in an RPG Maker VX game that doesn't follow the traditional vampire trend (may that be old like Dracula or new like Twilight).

[Brovo]

This makes me eager to make a vampire character in either d&d, a forum roleplay or in an RPG Maker VX game that doesn't follow the traditional vampire trend (may that be old like Dracula or new like Twilight).

Done it. Doing it now in Legend of Renalta: Reborn with an 800 year old Drow Vampire who avoids his pains via cheap entertainment and clinging onto things that made him happy when he was a mortal.

[Darth]

I couldn't read BDB purely because of the names. When you name characters "Zsadist" and "Tohrment", you've gotta be at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to creativity.

I mean, maybe they're good books, maybe they're not. But those are some fanfiction-written-by-a-fourteen-year-old tier names, right there. I think the author would've been better off just playing the names straight with no quirky spelling changes.

Don't get me wrong, when it comes to reading fiction, it's always "more power to you" if you like something..

But those names.