Grrrr, this makes me so angry!

[Christiefries]

Keeping morals completely out of this, the act of replicating deaths is too expensive. I do not want government money going towards creative slaughter.

It would cost more money to keep them alive for the remainder of their life in jail.

[guster746]

Some people don't think they'll be caught, but they'll be more cautious about it. Some people do it anyway and don't care if they're caught, because the punishment isn't that severe and they have hope of not getting the death penalty. It would prevent some people from doing what they do, and any amount of people we can save is worth it in my mind.

It would not bring us to their level because we would have different intentions than they do, and it would serve for a greater purpose for the safety of all. If it can save more people, then we should do it. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Are the intentions really different though? They do it out of anger or insanity or vengeance or lust or greed. When we do it to them is it not from anger an vengeance and wrath? The goal may be to deter future criminals, sure, but you admitted yourself it is also for a sense of justice.

Violence breeds violence. Without control a violent act can make a chain that will never stop. Perhaps there are times when retaliation is neccesary for self preservation. But other times the reasons are as petty as the initial offender.

Maybe I'm just a dreamer but I can't help but feel this is part of the problem keeping us from a united species.

[★LunaLight★]

It would cost more money to keep them alive for the remainder of their life in jail.

The people receiving death penalty? Oh, I get it now. Yeah, now we get into the, but what if they weren't really guilty debate.

[Esper]

Keeping morals completely out of this, the act of replicating deaths is too expensive. I do not want government money going towards creative slaughter.

I was unaware shooting someone in the head point blank took more than one bullet.

[guster746]

It would cost more money to keep them alive for the remainder of their life in jail.

Actually you're wrong. I'll find a source.

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Here you go.
http://m.aol.com/dailyfinance/defaul...id=dsk_df_news

[Esper]

Actually you're wrong. I'll find a source.

The problem is people don't want a cost effective solution. The bottomline is if someone is proven guilty of crimes like that a single bullet can put them down. From that angle it is not about morals or humanity. It is about removing the wicked from the world.

Now you can also argue that its immoral to execute someone for any reason. It's just the fact it doesn't make people feel good, but in my opinion and only my opinion it should be up to the wronged victims to determine the punishment.

However neither argument is relevant since we make sure they are guilty and worthy of being put down as they put others down in accordance with the law. There you have it. Pointless debate is pointless since we are not going to stop doing what we are doing without any major change in the law. Then you also have to consider any number of other factors also, like extraditing criminals from other countries and how some refuse to do that if there is a chance they will be executed.

[guster746]

The problem is people don't want a cost effective solution. The bottomline is if someone is proven guilty of crimes like that a single bullet can put them down. From that angle it is not about morals or humanity. It is about removing the wicked from the world.

Now you can also argue that its immoral to execute someone for any reason. It's just the fact it doesn't make people feel good, but in my opinion and only my opinion it should be up to the wronged victims to determine the punishment.

However neither argument is relevant since we make sure they are guilty and worthy of being put down as they put others down in accordance with the law. There you have it. Pointless debate is pointless since we are not going to stop doing what we are doing without any major change in the law. Then you also have to consider any number of other factors also, like extraditing criminals from other countries and how some refuse to do that if there is a chance they will be executed.

Every change has to start somewhere. The largest enemy to change is silence.

[★LunaLight★]

I was unaware shooting someone in the head point blank took more than one bullet.

Are you saying we need separate deaths for those who drown, beat, shoot, knife, skin, bleed out, throw off of a building, etc. I just don't see this being efficient. Plus, there is a reason we don't just kill people who got a life sentence. Clearly there is more to the argument than we are putting forth.

[guster746]

Are you saying we need separate deaths for those who drown, beat, shoot, knife, skin, bleed out, throw off of a building, etc. I just don't see this being efficient. Plus, there is a reason we don't just kill people who got a life sentence. Clearly there is more to the argument than we are putting forth.

Thank you, like possible innocence and due process.

[Taaja Hart]

I don't support the death sentence, but that means I'm not happy about the prison system.

In 1994 a woman named Susan Smith let her car roll into a lake, carrying her two young children with it. She claimed an African American man stole her car, but was later convicted for the murder of her children. Why? She was having an affair with another man who didn't want to be in a relationship with her if she brought a pre-existing family with her.

So she's in prison. But not for life (I think the sentence is minimum 35 years, after which she's eligible for parole). While there, she's attempted suicide a few times, and had her medical bills paid by a lover of hers who wires lots of money into her prison account. Not only does she enjoy being relatively wealthy compared to other inmates, there are several guards who have been punished for having sex with her. Currently she has a (female) lover with her in prison.

If people like her are serving such time for atrocious crimes like letting their own children drown, then falsely and in a racist fashion pinning the crime (for a time) on someone who doesn't exist, why are prison inmates allowed such privilege while serving time? Things like money and sex aren't rights. If people are serving life for crimes they've committed, prison should not be a place filled with privilege.