Star Wars Post Empire/New Jedi Order OOC

[Colonel Caboose]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Planetary_shield

apparently there is two types fo shields for planets, both make reference to it actually being possible for ships to pass through them, but the ship's systems would be damaged more or less depending on which planetary shield was in play.

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Name: Mesh'la Solaris

Gender: female

Race: Zygerrian

Affiliation: Bounty Hunter, Republic

Force Sensitive: no

Age: 58

Weapons: Some of Mesh'las armor plating is made of mandalorian iron and is painted red for the honoring of her father. She carries a single WESTAR-34 strapped to the inside of her left thigh while she keeps her DC-17 hand blaster in a holster on her right side as a part of her Kama. Her main weapon of fire is a DC-15S blaster. She wears a Merr-Sonn JT-12 jetpack on her back that also had a warhead missile launcher and was painted red with gray. On her right wrist gauntlet she wears a dart shooter that can shoot either posion or parlaze darts and it also has a mini grapple launcher attached to it too. She also has a miniture flamethrower, 2 thermal detonators, and 2 EMP grenades. Her Kama, boots, and gloves are black to signifiy justice. Her belt buckle also acts as a storing device for data chips or holocrons. on the back side of her belt it has a small pack that holds a small medical kit.


Ship: XS stock light freighter
Mesh'la's ship the Merciless is considered one of the oldest desgins and probably one of the last (if not the last) of its kind. Having been a gift from her father who told her the ship has been in the family for over thousands of years, and that its each new family member to inherit its job to upgrade and modifiy with the lastest gadgets and gear and to maintain or even refurbish the ship till almost new before passing it on to the next. Mesh'la's father was the last to use this ship before passing it onto his daughter and the last to maintain it, though his time as a slavery, and as a training instructor cut back on him going beyond the condition he would have liked to restored it too.

Appearance:

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Mesh'la armor also came with the ship. While not completely made of beskar (mandalorian iron) the helmet, breast plates, and guantlets are. The armor is part of another family tradition to update it to fit the current mando'ade look, and if possible add replace more of the armor with beskar if possible, though it is not required seeing as beskar has become more scarce over time and is more expensive than ever. Mesh'la's father was the last to wear the armor before having it readujsted to fit Mesh'la.

out of armor

Bio: Mesh'la was born on Zygerria to a noble family. Her parents died by a rebellious slave. In the process he also managed to kiddnap her. Though while can still remember her parents, she only knows what they did and who they really were outside their appearances by what her kiddnapper now turned adoptive father. After the kiddnapping, she was raised by Kotyc Maximus, who was sold into slavery by deathwatch at the end of the mandalorian civil war, four years prior to her birth. He raised her to be his own, and taught her a new set of morals and tried his best to make her the exact opposite of her people, selfish, dishonorable hutuun as he put it, though he couldn't wipe her heirtage from her, she still had a tendency to act superior to others, due to her noble blood. She also tends to be bias against the weak, and believes those who are weak are most likely to remain weak. Though while she continues to fight these tendencies, every slip or break down is to occur sometime, depending on those who agitate her.

In 30 BBY her father was called to serve in the Cuy'val Dar, having been called by the current Mandalore he had fought along side with in the civil war. With no where to leave her, he worked out an agreement with Jango to allow her to come to Kamino and train and help instruct the clone commandos and other clone special force divisions. She was loathed by some of the clones for her snotty attitude sometimes. Her father saw the results of if his daughter and the clones were to have a little mishap that it would be ugly and tried to reassure them it was a heredity issue that she couldn't control. Though eventually she tangled with one of the clones and sent him to the emegency care. The clone was outmatched by her superior humanoid strength, and after seeing what seeing what she had done to the poor clone she felt ashamed and his broken state only made her guilt worse. She did her ultimate best to keep herself under control while on Kamino. Her father warned her that the mandalorian culture and her heirtage was a dangerous mix and that when the time comes she will realize why he did such. After the brutal beating she gave the clone, she made amens with him and the others and was now seen as a more friendlier figure and was as loathed and more embraced into the clone commando family.

When the Cuy'val Dar contract was up she had risen into adulthood and become a true mandalorian warrior herself. As where to go next she didn't know, she felt torn between following her father to Mandalore or following her clone brothers that she had grown up with and had come to understand better than any other mongrol would. After running into a jedi called Gin, who also shared a passion for the clones, she became a close friend to him, and a loyal one. While she still resented most if not all jedi, she agreed that there were still a couple good ones. Mesh'la soon came to follow Gin and returned to working for the Republic and her reputation seemed to spread fast through the Republic. Her father eventually returned to the Republic to do cross training for the Republic commando's.

After Order 66 was given she and her commando brothers escaped of world, but at the price of her father who was killed while trying to save some clone troopers from several Jedi trying to get off world. She became clan chieftain in her father's place. She gave up work as a bounty hunter to take care of the clan like her father would want her to do for the time being. After the fall of the Empire and the rise of the New Republic, Mesh'la decided to head to the Senate Hearing with four of her nephews and her nieces. She wasn't one for politics, but she had a bounty to take care of and poltics was always fun to watch.

Name: A'den

Gender: Male

Race: Human

Age: 35

Affiliation (Jedi, Republic, Seperatist, Bounty Hunter, Clone, etc): Clan Kotyc
Weapon(s): Z-6 Rotary Blaster Cannon triple shoulder mounted rockets, hidden vibroblade in gauntlets, and simple dual holstered blaster pistols, and a grppling hook.

Ship (if any): none

Appearance: A'den is 6'2 and has brown short hair with grey eyes. His face resembles that of his father's, but it has a more soft tone to it that he recieved from his mother.


Bio: A'den is the son of a clone and the grandson of A'den his fathers mandalorian sargeant before the Clone Wars. He has remained for most of his life on Mandalore with his family, due to being galaxy not being a safe place during the reign of the Empire for him and his family. He has spent most of his time on Mandalore helping with the farm, with 50 or so plus mouths to feed and a 1000 acres to plow, seed, and pick, A'den has had little time for anything else but training with his cousins. Even in later years when he was free to do as he please he never went too far, still remaining only within Mandalorian controlled space. Making a few trips to Concordia and Concord Dawn. Now he is accompanying his Aunt due to his father's wishes to keep a close eye on her and to keep her out of trouble.

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Name: Echo

Gender Male

Age: 40

Race: Human

Affiliation: Bounty Hunter

Force Sensitive: no

Weapons: DC-15A blaster rifle, DC-15s side arm blaster, DC-17 hand blaster, standard Clone Trooper equipment.

Ship: YT-2400 light freighter

Appearance: Echo resembles his father much, more so than his other cousins. He has the smae hair, face, and even the same height as a clone. Only his eyes which are hazel he got from his mother.


Bio: Echo is the son of yet another clone and another grandson of A'den. Echo was the restless one of the new generation at the Kotyc estate. From when he was young and heard the stories of the Clone Wars from his father and uncles, to when he was old enough to head out on his own, Echo always wanted to see the Galaxy. He wanted to explore it and find the vast amounts of treature it held. All the way from the swamps of Dathomir, to the frozen tundras of Hoth, and even the depths of Mon Calamari, Echo wanted to see it all. At the age of 18 he set off on his great adventure, but he did not find what he expected. He found fear, pain, and death everywhere he went. The Galatic Empire the cause of it all, it was not long before Echo joined the Rebellion to help fight the Empire. He raced across the jungle floors of Yavin 4 to combat the landing Imperials to give the transports more time. He fought on the tundras of Hoth to hault the Empire from destroying the Shield Generator. He fought several more battles across the Galaxy, until he wounded a storm trooper who turned out to be an old clone. His uncles and all were clones, but this one was much older, having never recieved the aging process antidote. The clone asked him to bury him on Geneosis with his squad members, a noble last request that Echo honored.

Echo buired the old clone on Geneosis and noticed the wreckage that was still very present even after 20 years. Rusted droids scattered the ground with brown covered armor of deceased clones. Echo after a bit of searching found a peerfectly clean piece of clone armor, he almost jumped when he read the name of the clone sratched onto his shoulder plate, the name which was no other than his own. To honor his heirtage, Echo tooke the armor for himself and made several improvements to it, to make it suited for the present times. After this he returned home to Mandalore and remained there for he was a changed man and everyone could tell, because he had that same look his father and his uncles had sometimes when they were thinking.

Echo is married and has twin girls, but he is forced to leave them as he goes with his aunt to look after her, not that she isn't capable of handling things herself.

Name: Katan

Age: 27

Gender: female

Affiliation (ie: Jedi, bounty hunter, sith, etc) clan Kotyc

Race: Human

Weapons (if any): She carries dual WESTAR-34 strapped to her thighs. She wears a Merr-Sonn JT-12 jetpack on her back. On her right wrist gauntlet she wears a dart shooter that can shoot either posion or parlaze darts and it also has a mini grapple launcher attached to it too. She also has a miniture flamethrower. She has two vibro blades, one in each wrist.


Ship (if any): none

Appearance: Katan is 5'3 with red hair and blue eyes. Her skin is pale and almost like snow. She is a slim and petite girl, but don't be mistaken she is a true killing machine.


Bio: Katan is the third grandchild of A'den and is half clone as well. Her mother was a Night Wwl during the clone wars, a specialized mercnary group of mandalorian women. She soon began to follow in her mother's footsteps and was inducted into the Night Owl's. She learned the art of seduction, flexibility, and fashion, all the powers needed to make men melt into her palm and to manipulate them. Mesh'la disapproved of this type of training, believing that she should be taught actual skills, like fighting, shooting, and how to snap a Gundark's neck. Mesh'la soon got her answer as her mother taught her several types of martial arts, how to hit a target in their weak points and make a clean kill. She now knew how to seductive and kill a man with her body, but she needed to learn how to shoot her way out if things didn't go as planned. By the time she was 25 she had mastered all the arts of becoming a Night Owl. Mesh'la still disapproved of her training, because the Night Owls were former Death Watch members, before turning to the Republic side.Mesh'la tolerated her mother's presence for the family and her brothers sake. Katan was sent with Mesh'la to the Senate Hearing to do a little bonding with her aunt, and to keep an eye on her.

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All of these were pre approved by Nacho.

[Assallya]

Come to think of it, Caboose just reminded me of something; In Episode 1, Luke and the rest of the starfighters approaching the Death Star simply put their deflector shields to "double front" and then punched through the planetary shield that the Death Star had without any sign of damage.

[IAmZero]

So ready for this long-ass intro to be over. I have nothing to do until it is. Six pages of RP and my characters just do not fit.

[EvilScottishGuy]

Really no need for me to post this morning as I got my char out of there earlier. Tonight will start up a meeting in the Remnant.

[Mattmanganon]

Come to think of it, Caboose just reminded me of something; In Episode 1, Luke and the rest of the starfighters approaching the Death Star simply put their deflector shields to "double front" and then punched through the planetary shield that the Death Star had without any sign of damage.

actually, according to Star Wars: Empire At War, the reason that Fighters could fit through it was because the engines of the Death Star needed so much energy to move, that they had to take power from the Shields, this left gaps in the shield, enough for small fighters to fit through, but not larger ships, the Second Death Star fixed this problem, which is why they had to take down the shield first.

[EvilScottishGuy]

EaW Canon... risky using that. The canon on it can be a bit... iffy.

[Mattmanganon]

EaW Canon... risky using that. The canon on it can be a bit... iffy.

fine, but the Wiki seems to accept it as canon, and trust me, the mods are REALLY strict on canon on Wookiepedia. I have a book based on canon back in the 1995, it says in it that the Executor was once rammed by another Star Destroyer, i put that on the wiki and the mods removed it saying that there was no canon source for it, i have a fucking encyclopedia that says it is and they deemed it as not a canon source.

There were small gaps in the shields of the first Death Star; the Empire believed that this was harmless since only small ships could wiggle through the gaps. The shields of the second Death Star would have had no such gaps.

[Assallya]

Come on Matt. You can't honestly believe that. Use your head and don't blindly recount that which you're read. Think about what you read and don't accept it at face value. There are two humongous flaws in that explanation, one based on physics and the other because the writer for that game material simply hasn't watched Return of the Jedi.

I'll attend to the second one first. In Return of the Jedi the Second Death star had no shield. None at all. I have no idea what this person writing material for Empire at War was talking about. Either the Death Star didn't have a shield or it wasn't completed yet. The shield generator in question was on Endor and had nothing to do with the Death Star. That makes that entire avenue of explanation pure fiction. Maybe the Death Star's shields would have stopped the fighters, maybe it wouldn't have. We'll never know.

The first statement, however, that the Death Star needed power to its engines makes me want to slam my head into a desk. It's space. The Death Star is not an airplane. Turning off the engines isn't going to cause the Death Star to suddenly "fall out of the sky" or come to a stop. In truth, once you've reached your maximum speed in space (Ie. where increasing speed any further takes more energy than your engines can produce) you don't need your engines anymore except for slowing down.

[Mattmanganon]

Come on Matt. You can't honestly believe that. Use your head and don't blindly recount that which you're read. Think about what you read and don't accept it at face value. There are two humongous flaws in that explanation, one based on physics and the other because the writer for that game material simply hasn't watched Return of the Jedi.

I'll attend to the second one first. In Return of the Jedi the Second Death star had no shield. None at all. I have no idea what this person writing material for Empire at War was talking about. Either the Death Star didn't have a shield or it wasn't completed yet. The shield generator in question was on Endor and had nothing to do with the Death Star. That makes that entire avenue of explanation pure fiction. Maybe the Death Star's shields would have stopped the fighters, maybe it wouldn't have. We'll never know.

The first statement, however, that the Death Star needed power to its engines makes me want to slam my head into a desk. It's space. The Death Star is not an airplane. Turning off the engines isn't going to cause the Death Star to suddenly "fall out of the sky" or come to a stop. In truth, once you've reached your maximum speed in space (Ie. where increasing speed any further takes more energy than your engines can produce) you don't need your engines anymore except for slowing down.

what i meant was that the Death Star still has an incredible mass, and though it's Weight is nothing in space, it's mass is still that of a small moon, so it still needs a mind boggling amount of power to get it up to speed. and the shields from the Forest Moon were only there until the shield generator could be installed into the Death Star, because of the trap they were setting, they were working only on getting the main gun working, and in fact, installing the Shield Generator into the Death Star II would be detremental to the plan.

of course they planned on installing Shield Generators into her, and the guy writing the story for EaW was going under the premise that the Death Star II would have been completed if the Rebels hadn't blown it up (a fair assumption in my books)

and still, they need engines in order to move it because they were very close to the Gravety Well of the Gas Giant Yavin, if they weren't firing their engines, then they would have been sucked in and that is something they didn't want. again, Tarkin was very overconfident in his Technological Terror. he wanted to get to Yavin IV as fast as possible, which involved them getting close to Yavin, and vulnerabilites that it caused... well, they were only minor, it would only let some fighters through, and what could Fighters do to his Death Star?

[Assallya]

You don't need to burn engines at full blast just to avoid falling into a planet's gravity. The proof is above your head all the time. Earth's moon doesn't have engines. Thus if what you say is true then the Death Star's navigator is incompetent or their navigational systems are flawed. You don't need to go in at full burn along an orbital path once you're up at speed and burning more fuel doesn't do anything. Heck, just shut off the engines since you're not using them, full power to the shields, and crash into the starfighters using Newton's third law. Attack over.

Even if the Imperials were that incompetent and never went to school to learn astrophysics the Starfighters going up against the first death star supposedly had holes in which to fly through? Why bother turning up their shields to punch through the Death Star's shields if so? Maybe they should edit that out of the movies?

As for the whole second Death Star thing, who knows? The thing was never finished. The shield system might not even have worked. All I know is that entire section you read and relayed doesn't make any sense since those fools are using the Endor shield to prove that the second Death Star's shield is improved over the original. You might as well be demonstrating to us that this new Orange is tastier than the original by letting us bite into an apple.

I wouldn't put too much faith in Wookieepedia and canonicity. I've found dozens of flaws in their work. According to Wookieeepedia Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, the second Death Star and both fleets were destroyed at the end of Return of the Jedi.