View Poll Results: Would you view the product of this process as the same individual who died?

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Thread: Mental Uploading And You

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiefries View Post
    ... We weren't even discussing the religious aspect of it in full detail. I have been in religious debates before and they went along maturely with most people, and I have had conversations with Brovo before and I know he is capable of not being a butthead about it. The only thing he directed towards me was discussing Data's sentience.
    I know, don't take it too seriously. I forgot to add in the smileys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiefries View Post
    ... We weren't even discussing the religious aspect of it in full detail. I have been in religious debates before and they went along maturely with most people, and I have had conversations with Brovo before and I know he is capable of not being a butthead about it. The only thing he directed towards me was discussing Data's sentience.
    It was my bad, actually. I joked about it and he misinterpreted it. All is fixed though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brovo View Post
    It was my bad, actually. I joked about it and he misinterpreted it. All is fixed though.

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    If you have something more to get off your chest, then by all means.

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    I could probably demonstrate this with a 'perfect image' of you (a photograph you posted in member's lounge), a chainsaw, and you.

    Even assuming the image was an absolutely perfect reproduction, you the individual would quite certainly be dead if I showed-up wearing a hockey-mask and repeatedly disemboweled you with a chainsaw.

    The 'promise' that those memories won't be altered by loved-ones or that the process will even work at all as promised will be of little consolation when you die. Much like whether or not you managed to have sex before death or not.


    Last edited by Foster; 01-18-2013 at 02:35 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anita Watanabe View Post
    Oh Foster. That post made me happier than it should have XD
    "After several men of the company had been blown up by shells, I noticed that a spirit of uneasiness became dominant."

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    I don't believe so simply due to the fact you're talking about them managing to get someone's personality from a dead brain, key word being 'dead'

    If they were still alive and you could scan them, and the technology was highly accurate, yes.

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    I chose 'other' because they aren't truly the same person they once were.Truthfully I would still engage in conversation every-now and then, but I would feel as if the person has been cheated out on the main process of life.There has to be an ending to everything eventually and I have accepted that, so this would kinda freak me out in many more way's then one.But I would be happy that they are still here.Yet I would be freaked out by the fact that they are practically a example of the 'Living Dead'.I am pretty much evenly divided on this concept.
    Feeling The Aster?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorick View Post
    I don't get why people are saying this copy couldn't adapt or grow as a person. If it's a perfect replica of that person's brain functions and the artificial body is technologically advanced enough to mimic the basics of biological behavior such as feeling pain and feeling emotions that are caused by chemicals in the human body (which, if we're saying this is created at a time such that it is possible to perfectly copy someone's mind, is not unlikely), then that entity is perfectly capable of growing and adapting. Nothing said it would be a static copy of the mind, just that it would be a copy. Part of that stuff in your brain is what makes you able to adapt and grow. Why would this copy not be able to do these things then if it has that brain perfectly copied? They would be able to acquire new memories and experiences just like any human, and that plus sensory feedback is really all that is required to adapt/grow or to learn new things.

    These assumptions of it being a static copy just strike me as a little silly. It's not as if the mind would be contained in an unmoving vessel that cannot interact with the world. That's the only way it would possibly be a static copy, so given the fact that this hypothetical copy is being put into a functional body that simply does not make sense.

    This makes sense. I mean, what is the body? Chemical processes and muscles that are fairly equivalent to machines. I personally believe that the individual is in the mind, so to recreate the mind is to recreate the individual. Yes, there are a lot of moral grey zones around this issue. Yes, it could result in multiple versions of one individual and other such problems. But as to the question itself, pure and simple, I say yes; it's the same person.



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