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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    Its origin is organized panic about death. Behave nicely and don't murder people OR YOU'LL BURN FOREVER AFTER YOU DIE.
    Yes, but that train of thought seems counter-intuitive in that many major religions contradict themselves or provide a means by which it is impossible to live a good life and be saved. However religion was made for one other thing, a means to control people by influencing the masses who bear an average intellect to favor a single philosophy and not question it. Once you control the status quo it is rather easy to disregard those of higher intellect, because they are the vocal minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esper View Post
    Yes, but that train of thought seems counter-intuitive in that many major religions contradict themselves or provide a means by which it is impossible to live a good life and be saved. However religion was made for one other thing, a means to control people by influencing the masses to favor a single philosophy and not question it.
    Which is why it no longer has a place in this world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    Which is why it no longer has a place in this world.
    Do you honestly believe individuals can be taught to think for themselves after so long? I doubt it on many levels, but see many methods that could make a minor dent in the ignorant masses. The question then becomes is it ethical to implement said methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esper View Post
    Do you honestly believe individuals can be taught to think for themselves after so long? I doubt it on many levels, but see many methods that could make a minor dent in the ignorant masses. The question then becomes is it ethical to implement said methods.
    I don't care about what they're capable of or not, but it's time for religion to go. Humanity can create miracles with a scientific mindset (after all, science is a method in the pursuit of knowledge, not a philosophy or something), not deities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    I don't care about what they're capable of or not, but it's time for religion to go. Humanity can create miracles with a scientific mindset (after all, science is a method in the pursuit of knowledge, not a philosophy or something), not deities.
    Indeed we can, however Hank only a small percentage of the population is able to separate how they feel from how they do things. For the record, I do agree with you. The problem lies in the method of implementation where you might very well spark a war. I do however think that Revelation was written ambiguously in the event this very event happens, scientific pursuits becoming the dominant mindset.

    “Your story may not have such a happy beginning, but that doesn’t make you who you are. It is the rest of your story – who you choose to be.”

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