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[Foxes]

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[Hellis]

Yes. FO3 was pretty fucking shitty. I wan't a game that make me feel like I am atleast in the Fallout setting. Not generic grey apocalypse number 131245133213967

[Card VII]

I didn't think the story was all that bad. I was invested in it.

Obsidian are fantastic plot writers. New Vegas was very well made in that respect, especially with Lonesome Road, I thought. Bethesda are very good at making little mini stories. Loot is carefully and logically placed so you may infer about the types of things that happened there as well as the people are there. What they can't do is write plots. It's not an original analogy, but Bethesda games are wide, beautiful, knee deep oceans.

[Hellis]

Obsidian are fantastic plot writers. New Vegas was very well made in that respect, especially with Lonesome Road, I thought. Bethesda are very good at making little mini stories. Loot is carefully and logically placed so you may infer about the types of things that happened there as well as the people are there. What they can't do is write plots. It's not an original analogy, but Bethesda games are wide, beautiful, knee deep oceans.

Pretty much this. They are pretty bad at Overarching, major backbone writing. But they are really good at side questing type of deals.

[Kill Bones]

Obsidian are fantastic plot writers. New Vegas was very well made in that respect, especially with Lonesome Road, I thought. Bethesda are very good at making little mini stories. Loot is carefully and logically placed so you may infer about the types of things that happened there as well as the people are there. What they can't do is write plots. It's not an original analogy, but Bethesda games are wide, beautiful, knee deep oceans.

Agreed.

Still hate NV because fucking ugly fucking sand everywhere. Don't complain about FO3s environment, at least it had variety and everything wasn't fucking sand

[Card VII]

Agreed.

Still hate NV because fucking ugly fucking sand everywhere. Don't complain about FO3s environment, at least it had variety and everything wasn't fucking sand

Everything was dirt and concrete.

Seriously, it's Post-Apocolyptia. No one has or will do it without making it boring.

[PrimezTime]

Agreed.

Still hate NV because fucking ugly fucking sand everywhere. Don't complain about FO3s environment, at least it had variety and everything wasn't fucking sand

Also the urban environment was larger. Exploring downtown DC took quite a bit. Exploring Vegas was pathetic.

[Hellis]

i never mentioned New Vegas becosue "LOL GAME KEPT CRASHING"

I complain about FO3 becouse the gradient, the lazy texturing the terrible placement of obstacles and the generally shitty outline of things. Variety was small, everytime you came to new place, it was mainly the same thing with just a some other props added. What lazy fucked descided to reuse textrues evereywhere, reuse the same set of lighting and have every house feel like cardboard? ugh.

[Kill Bones]

Although I could always do with more Dean Domino

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i never mentioned New Vegas becosue "LOL GAME KEPT CRASHING"

I complain about FO3 becouse the gradient, the lazy texturing the terrible placement of obstacles and the generally shitty outline of things. Variety was small, everytime you came to new place, it was mainly the same thing with just a some other props added. What lazy fucked descided to reuse textrues evereywhere, reuse the same set of lighting and have every house feel like cardboard? ugh.

Dude it's a 2008 game, they all looked horrible.

[PrimezTime]

Obsidian are fantastic plot writers. New Vegas was very well made in that respect, especially with Lonesome Road, I thought. Bethesda are very good at making little mini stories. Loot is carefully and logically placed so you may infer about the types of things that happened there as well as the people are there. What they can't do is write plots. It's not an original analogy, but Bethesda games are wide, beautiful, knee deep oceans.

Defiantly but I still cared about the main plot. The characters I met along the way were a lot more memorable for me. Elder Lyons, Three Dog, Dad, Fawkes, etc. The events were all memorable, too. So call me a little crazy but I still thought FO3 was better but both Fallout 3 and New Vegas were amazing. I easily spent about 50+ hours on both games over the time I played them.