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[Bluemoon277]

What makes the foreign ones a different color then?

They all fell in the waste product of building and running the colony.

[Jorick]

Don't start sentences with and.

There's nothing grammatically incorrect in starting a sentence with a preposition or conjunction, some people are just anal retentive and think it looks bad so, being normal humans, they've propagated the myth that it's improper sentence structure rather than the truth of it being something they simply don't like.

[Turtlicious]

There's nothing grammatically incorrect in starting a sentence with a preposition or conjunction, some people are just anal retentive and think it looks bad so, being normal humans, they've propagated the myth that it's improper sentence structure rather than the truth of it being something they simply don't like.

Which is how the idea of grammar, especially in the English speaking world, got started. For example, let's look at the word Iron, obviously the way it's spelled is not the way it is pronounced, the same with nuclear (especially if you go back to the man who started it all, and heard how pronounced it.) Yet if you pronounce Iron the way it's spelled, you're an idiot. If you pronounce nuclear the way it's spelled, society accepts it but the person who invented the word gets shunted. It all boils down to which arbitrary rules you follow for flow. You have to understand why the rules are in place before you break them.

If we look at the sentence structure of what Vslayer was saying, it could have gone through a re-write to remove the and since the capital A on it tends to make people do a double take and detracts from the statement as a whole.

[Jorick]

Which is how the idea of grammar, especially in the English speaking world, got started. For example, let's look at the word Iron, obviously the way it's spelled is not the way it is pronounced, the same with nuclear (especially if you go back to the man who started it all, and heard how pronounced it.) Yet if you pronounce Iron the way it's spelled, you're an idiot. If you pronounce nuclear the way it's spelled, society accepts it but the person who invented the word gets shunted. It all boils down to which arbitrary rules you follow for flow. You have to understand why the rules are in place before you break them.

If we look at the sentence structure of what Vslayer was saying, it could have gone through a re-write to remove the and since the capital A on it tends to make people do a double take and detracts from the statement as a whole.

That's all fine and dandy, but for stylistic reasons it's often preferable to start a sentence with 'and' or 'but' or similar words. Saying that it's incorrect is, in and of itself, incorrect because it's a preference rather than a hard and fast rule of grammar according to the few "official" sources people look to to get the modern rules. All I'm saying is that it's not yet an official rule of grammar, though it may become one and that'd be annoying because of the good uses it has. Consider how a lot of people actually speak that way, how they'll say a sentence, then pause, then start a new sentence with one of those few words some people dislike as sentence starters. If it does become a real rule of grammar, people would call that incorrect even when it's done to stay true to the speech/thought patterns a character would use. I mean, it's not going to change a damned thing and I'll still use it where appropriate, but it'll be annoying to have people whine at me and say I'm doing something wrong. That's often the case with stylistic choices, so I'll just deal with it like I do with other things people like to complain about and call wrong, but it's still annoying.

I sort of rambled off onto other things there, but you get the point I think.

[Hellis]

There's nothing grammatically incorrect in starting a sentence with a preposition or conjunction, some people are just anal retentive and think it looks bad so, being normal humans, they've propagated the myth that it's improper sentence structure rather than the truth of it being something they simply don't like.

But YOU told me not to start a sentence with And.

[Turtlicious]

That's all fine and dandy, but for stylistic reasons it's often preferable to start a sentence with 'and' or 'but' or similar words. Saying that it's incorrect is, in and of itself, incorrect because it's a preference rather than a hard and fast rule of grammar according to the few "official" sources people look to to get the modern rules. All I'm saying is that it's not yet an official rule of grammar, though it may become one and that'd be annoying because of the good uses it has. Consider how a lot of people actually speak that way, how they'll say a sentence, then pause, then start a new sentence with one of those few words some people dislike as sentence starters. If it does become a real rule of grammar, people would call that incorrect even when it's done to stay true to the speech/thought patterns a character would use. I mean, it's not going to change a damned thing and I'll still use it where appropriate, but it'll be annoying to have people whine at me and say I'm doing something wrong. That's often the case with stylistic choices, so I'll just deal with it like I do with other things people like to complain about and call wrong, but it's still annoying.

I sort of rambled off onto other things there, but you get the point I think.

The thing is when it boils down, it's not about how it sounds it's about how you diagram it. A sentence starting with "And" or "But" become much harder to diagram then others, and oh my god I haven't slept all night why do I think I'm smart enough to do this? There is no real reason that you would put a period their instead of a comma. I mean generally if you're using and, you've ended a sentence too early. While in Vslayers case, the sentence was ended for her, using and in that particular place is incorrect in the fly-by-night rules, while totally ok in the strict textbook rules.

I don't actually care, and I'm really tired. I'm sorry.

[Jorick]

But YOU told me not to start a sentence with And.

I believe I said not to do it so often, not that it was totally wrong and to never do it. There are some decent uses of it, mostly in dialogue and thoughts to emulate real speech patterns, but most cases of people using it are bad and stupid because it should just be a continuation of the previous sentence rather than it's own sentence. It's a tricky thing that had to do with style and flow, so it's generally better to avoid it if you're not sure of what you're doing, that's all.

The thing is when it boils down, it's not about how it sounds it's about how you diagram it. A sentence starting with "And" or "But" become much harder to diagram then others, and oh my god I haven't slept all night why do I think I'm smart enough to do this? There is no real reason that you would put a period their instead of a comma. I mean generally if you're using and, you've ended a sentence too early. While in Vslayers case, the sentence was ended for her, using and in that particular place is incorrect in the fly-by-night rules, while totally ok in the strict textbook rules.

I don't actually care, and I'm really tired. I'm sorry.

Hahaha, it's cool, don't worry about it. I'm weird and actually like discussing grammar, else this conversation would have never happened. I'll take all the blame.