Elendra I am going to slap you sideways.
Originally Posted by SoraOriginally Posted by TarinOriginally Posted by BelaOriginally Posted by Turt
El, if this thing has gotten to the point that you are worried about a flame war, then just stop it. It is a game. I'd been pretty open to everyone involved (except derv, who as far as I know wasn't around) about how casually I've viewed this whole thing. I had not intended in my last PM to change your mind on things or force you to bring the whole thing up for debate.
If I may speak on behalf of side vanq.
I was contacted a couple of hours ago by mbl, the same time vanq was going over potential rooms for the safety of the collective blorbs, here his reasoning is vanq and dervish's attempt at threatening them with force.
I took the action to PM vanq in private on the IRC. She made it clear that she was just joking, and that she would rather have co-operation. Both these statements have been made on numerous accounts both privately and publically. I suggested a counter attack of blocking the entrance of the hole, with the majority of MBL's side outside, so they could drown in a horrible, horrible death, while systematically taking down those remaining survivors. Vanq turned this down, and as she is the representing leader of the team, her orders on our side counts for the entire teams motive.
Having told MBL I was on his side, while also relaying information to Vanq, MBL then sent me a message to him and other supposed co-operatives, who I belief are involved (but not yet confirmed), on their plan to attack. He mentions explicitly that he would try and convince turt and suki not to protect them, this language is key in the implications that he is the offender, and that vanq and dervish are defending.
Having spoken to vanq for numerous minutes, I then had a series of talks with MBL, both questioning him further on the attack and also attempting to make him change his mind, he ignored them, or justified them with motions that made it clear he was already motioning his team to tackle future scenario's without Vanq or Dervish's presence. He spoke quite straight-forward that him and others were already in the process of getting weapons, implying an attack. I also told him that vanq was joking and got no response...
As for my response to us having to kill them in the main thread. Note my reasoning, it is one of someone who feels it is necessary, as both for external dangers, and the fear of a future attack. Elendra, this is not the reasoning of mad blood thirsty people, but rather the reasoning of people who feel they are being pushed to act against the dangers of another group.
I have made my case, thank you.
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Edit: Okay, so we've decided to play nice? Cool.
But I hope that PM helped you see that the people who allied with me were essentially fucked from the moment vanq and them decided to come to where we were. They hadno choice but to side with me because all other options sucked, and now all their options suck. Just try not to fuck them over too hard.