I Don't Get Women

[ultimate523]

First off, despite the "I" in the title, I think if people give serious answers this could help other guys.

But basically, women seem very, very confusing. When I accuse them of something, I can't tell if they're angry, or pretending to be, but just covering it up. At least with us guys we're either like "I didn't do it", or "Fuck off, I can do what I want". The latter is done quite a lot by women as well, but more in non-sexist things interpretted as sexist, and occasionally in actually sexist things.

I honestly sometimes feel like it's best to just go for the sex, and quit on emotional investment in them. They seem to be far kinder that way. They all seem to have so many things they want to hide, and get pissed off at something you did once that they've done a hundred times with you. Especially some flirting stuff, from what I've seen. Women seem to be way more possessive than us men with this stuff, or at least in my experiences, and from what I've seen with others. Yet, despite that, they'll do all that stuff themselves.

And of course there's that thing of them always wanting you to change, but getting offended by any constructive criticism you give. I know this isn't all women, and I know I'm overly generalising a bit, but too many seem to be this way.

Should I really just try to strengthen my bisexuality, and have women just be sex objects since they actually seem to prefer that? So many seem to care about me more that way.

So yes, opinions please. And I assure you this isn't some weird attempt at trolling for those who may feel it is.

[ForeverKnight]

/srsface/

It's time for me to break it to you, Ultimate. Most men and women who go into a relationship and the first thing they do is flirt with and then fuck you, then they're just in it for the flirting and fucking.

You can't build a relationship around getting laid, and I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just extremely awkward and uncomfortable. It's better to emotionally invest in a relationship when the woman emotionally invests in it as well, and then the sex can be amazing and passionate in its own right instead of one-night-stand debauchery.

[Mahz]

inb4 scribbleking lecture

[ultimate523]

/srsface/

It's time for me to break it to you, Ultimate. Most men and women who go into a relationship and the first thing they do is flirt with and then fuck you, then they're just in it for the flirting and fucking.

You can't build a relationship around getting laid, and I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just extremely awkward and uncomfortable. It's better to emotionally invest in a relationship when the woman emotionally invests in it as well, and then the sex can be amazing and passionate in its own right instead of one-night-stand debauchery.

It's the relationships I don't build around sex that lead to problems, though. That's what I find odd, and confusing. So either I'm really bad at choosing women to have serious relationships with, or it's something else.

[Mahz]

Remember, humans are just creatures that, if you put in the right inputs, you get sex.

Don't supplicate and don't overrationalize.

What's wrong with just "going for the sex?" That sounds about right. In other words, be attractive, confident, and assertive. Sounds like a better plan than whatever "emotional investment" manipulation bullshit strategy you found didn't work.

[Tanaka]

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I'm anticipating this as well

[ultimate523]

Remember, humans are just creatures that, if you put in the right inputs, you get sex.

Don't supplicate and don't overrationalize.

What's wrong with just "going for the sex?" That sounds about right. In other words, be attractive, confident, and assertive. Sounds like a better plan than whatever "emotional investment" manipulation bullshit strategy you found didn't work.

I meant more how do I get both? I can find each singularly pretty easily.

[Animosity]

I've seen lots of women (friends of mine and yes myself) be that way too.
I'm pretty sure you're either going to have one of these type of women: One's who would want to fuck you, use you, or stay with you.

The problem with that is that it might be difficult to know which one you're dealing with. Sometimes women can be all 3 of those, it just depends on the type of guy they meet. Every guy is a different experience. Your personality determines how they will act with you.

Heck, if they just try to use the emotional crap just don't take it from them, either they will stay, or they will go. One of them is bound to stay if they see if you're serious enough to see past all that.

In the end, women manipulate guys, to get where they want. It's up to the guy to take their crap, or to just ignore it, side step it, and keep on rollin. Yes, it goes vise versa also.

[Omega]

Nut up

[Mahz]

I meant more how do I get both? I can find each singularly pretty easily.

Sexual attraction and connection is borderline universal while emotional connection is much more scarce.

Quit throwing your emotions at girls like a little Nancy. Nobody wants that.