[quote=LeeRoy] Tier 1: Below average people with no training.Tier 2: Average people with no training.Tier 3: Above average people who are experts in their martial art or weapon.Tier 4: (Biggest jump here) Superhumans. [/quote] I've been reading the tiers all wrong. I think. Maybe. Although, if that's the case, my previous point of a tier 4 martial artist easily beating up a bunch of tier 1's while playing chess becomes much more plausible. Dem untrained infants. Not that it matters, got accepted, at last :D Danke schôn.