[quote=So Boerd]
Talk about being unscientific, why would we try it again?
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I didn't invoke science. I personally recommend sticking people with what they said, not trying to get them to shoulder responsibility for what someone else said.

And considering how the Enlightenment era was over previous eras by progressively removing religion further from absolute power to the point where you have secular constitutions and law, there's more than enough room to actually argue the merits of secularism; that is, if one is perfectly willing to not restrain themselves to the narrow range of regimes you're trying to confine this argument to; we're treading awfully close to a few of the fallacies on Sukisho's list here.