[quote=AeronFarron] Pheromones are incredibly important to hornets as a species. Natural hornets donr speak and really communicate with motions or verbal cues. They communicate via pheromones. So if my character can simulate and manipulate the very thing all hornets use as communication, that is a lot more control than you think. She can easily simulate a "friendly" pheromone, which given the aggressive nature of the hornets you've created would be incredibly powerful. Aggression in insects and animals (humans included) typically means that they don't have cognitive responses, they don't stop and analyze, they follow their basic nature. Couple a horde mindset (which they seem to have) with a base nature, add in extreme aggression, amd the fact that they are not summons: they probably identify friend or foe as well as attack commands by pheromones.Now, I'll forgive you not reading my temp before you formulated your response. Had you done so, you'd have seen that the largest species of hornets (that I've made and was accepted) for Hornet summons had chosen to become her signature summons and to basically raise her. Her kekkei genkai evolved, over time, to allow her to understand them in their natural form of communication, as they lack the type of mouth that allows them to speak as a human does. Since the hornets communicated just as natural hornets do, she can understand them via pheromones, flight patterns, as well as behaviors and the seasons. Her summon is not restricted to one species, but all hornets. Now, when I made this, I wasn't expecting anyone else to choose to control hornets(what a coincidence), so I made the summon a blanket summon (much like most summons) So yes, she can summon your hornets. [/quote] You my friend are jumping to conclusions. I read your character's abilities, as well as the pheromone bit after you initially responded. I'm not asking you how natural hornets act or move, Red Chimeran Hornets are a creation of my own. Hardly natural. They move based on Akira's directions, not pheromones. I dunno if you read any of my attacks revolving around the Red Chimeran Hornets, but pheromones weren't stated to be a factor at all. To say your character understands a hypothetical hornets based on a trait I never stated they used is simply ludicrous. So unless you can simply read the mind of these hornets, then no, you can't understand them nor control them. "Summoning contracts do not give one control over the thing summoned at all, usually it is an understanding between the summoner and the thing summoned. Not to mention it doesn't give one control over something that someone else summoned, even if it is the same species." As I said before, it makes my hornets no difference if you summon your own, simply because you want to show that you. You will not be directing any of the Red Chimeran Hornets that Akira has, births, or controls. Good day. I have things to be editing. If you so choose to respond immediately I'll get back to you either in PMs or here if the GMs allow it. I'd rather not continue bickering about a simple issue regarding Hornets that I created that you want to stress the possibility of you controlling.