[quote=Grizzle Bear] Morality is rather subjective. People can and have spent lifetimes arguing over what is and isn't morally just. I'll put it this way though, I do not need religion to be a good person. I do need it to be the best person I can be. [/quote] Grizzle Bear, you're treading old, old ground. We've already been over this, earlier in the thread. It was resolved. People were happy.