[quote=Imperfectionist]He answered all of the points I cared about in a very satisfactory way, but the rest he seemed to be kind of an asshole about, especially the "answering every question" thing. ____ On the other, I was pissed, because the post had an air of elitism and "how could you possible not know these things, you peasant?"[/quote]

I seriously don't get your issue with the way Brovo make's his arguments. He's honest and straight forward, but does try to add some charm and humor to it. The charm/humor actually does help in people not getting defensive instantly.

Though really what I can say in this regard can just be narrowed down to this:

If you blunt honesty and/or humour in debates is enough to get under your skin then OT isn't exactly a good place. It requires a certain amount of thick skin to stay in without being driven up the wall.

[quote=Grizzle Bear]Morality is rather subjective. People can and have spent lifetimes arguing over what is and isn't morally just. I'll put it this way though, I do not need religion to be a good person. I do need it to be the best person I can be.[/quote]

It is, but the fact that if you were to lose your religion you would still have morals would show that Religion isn't where your morals were coming from. If it was, the morals would leave when you lose your Religion. Which is what I was (rather poorly) trying to argue with that point.

And despite my constant debating/arguing against Religion, I have never hated individual Christians. My issue has always been with the system of Religion, though if you're a Christian who simply believes in God, doesn't try to condemn people, and doesn't try to get rid of science, then I'm not going to have any real issues with you. I might disagree with your motivation or reasoning in some things, but there's nothing that would make me actually have an issue or get into conflict with you.

[quote=Grizzle Bear]Fair enough, it's a long thread and I admit I only skimmed bits of it. Personally I believe there is a hole more to the atheism vs religion discussion than does or doesn't God exist. But if that's all just rehashing the same old junk for you guys, my apologies.[/quote]

Me, Brovo and others have a tendency to go on a long amount on debates, especially where the topic is Religion.

And there's no need to apologize for bring up an old topic if you have something to add to it, the more minds working on something the better the end result is going to be. 

Though I do need some clarification in what you mean by "Atheism VS Religion" having more holes than "God VS No God".