[quote=Sep]I have no ideas what they are. If they are from the actual universe I have no quarrel. My main reservation is to stop people from making their own ships, so if it is from a RP and you designed it I'll have to go no. Wikia pages need to exist just so me or anyone else can call you up on it if things go tits up. [/quote] Well they do have have stats for them, but are not 'official' designs. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/excelsior-revised.php = Ingram http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/federation/indomitable/indomitable.html = Indomitable http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/federation/kolm-an/kolm-an.html = Kolm-An http://www.asdb.net/asdb/docs/sfp/sfp.pdf = Discovery - this is a fan pdf document for use with FASA RPG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIVbNwp7os = Discovery youtube fly-by. These have all been used in RP's so you may disallow, and I would understand that, totally so. Then it would be a toss up between an Excelsior or Connie from nuTrek EDIT: And I would certainly ban STO stuff after last time.