Thanks for the detailed reply Gisk. I'm not really attached to spirit magic, I was just probing my options. Folks need to understand that from a GM perspective, a shoehorn character is like a slap in your face. It's like preparing an awesome dinner for your friends and one of them ignores it and orders out for pizza instead. I'll have to think a bit about a character, Gisk, and whether I have time. I always made the mistake on old guild of joining too many games and over extending myself. Don't want to do that on new guild.