[quote=vancexentan] Just got done a game of crusader kings 2 and...the pope declared a crusade on me...I had to cheat slightly (nothing abusive I made a title and got some money to keep up a holy order and it was fair since the game screwed with me pretty bad through the game) and the pope turned out to be formerly jewish....Also I found this [/quote] Games can be weird sometimes. I found the monkey family in halo 3.