[quote=So Boerd]
Clearly the point is lost on you. Why should I afford you human rights?Because "better" is subjective, give me any objective criteria by which to measure it (including the percentage of people who self-identify as happy) and I can craft you a society which maximizes any number of those criteria by not respecting human rights, a society in which you would not want to live regardless of its superior consequences.
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Again you're speaking in terms of perfection when I'm not. What defines human rights varies from culture to culture, nation to nation, person to person. And you should afford me human rights by measure of the fact that it is necessary for civilization? O.o I do not understand how this is a question. If I work with you and give you human rights equal to mine, and you extend the gesture, we are strengthened through a mutual desire to exist with as many undisturbed freedoms and independence as is possible.

Or we can not do that and go back to old testament racial genocides because the voices in our head told us to do that. You know, barbarism and all that. If you prefer that, go right ahead, my society however will object to that.