[quote=Brovo] Again you're speaking in terms of perfection when I'm not. What defines human rights varies from culture to culture, nation to nation, person to person. And you should afford me human rights by measure of the fact that it is necessary for civilization? O.o I do not understand how this is a question. If I work with you and give you human rights equal to mine, and you extend the gesture, we are strengthened through a mutual desire to exist with as many undisturbed freedoms and independence as is possible.Or we can not do that and go back to old testament racial genocides because the voices in our head told us to do that. You know, barbarism and all that. If you prefer that, go right ahead, my society however will object to that. [/quote] Let me be clearer. I offer you, right now, a Matrix-like existence hooked up to a machine. For the purpose of argument, all stimuli are perfectly simulated. Your loved ones are perfectly simulated. You can design this completely artificial and completely realistic world however you like, but once you enter you can never leave. Robots will attend to the maintenance of the machine while you are unconscious. Two questions: 1. Would you do it? 2. Would you be in favor of forcing everyone to use it?