hehe[quote=So Boerd] By all means, determinism can be empirically verified. But free will is already philosophically impossible in the absence of a supernatural being.Go ahead, be rational. Prove free will is possible without souls. I will wait. [/quote] The fact that I have an independent mind?... With its own thoughts?... That are largely determined by a huge variation of complex social and biological things... And so on... ... What does this have to do with human rights? And why are you avoiding the fact that you compared atheism to sociopaths?