[quote=Eveekitten] I don't think I'll be joining this after all I seem to have misunderstood just what it is you're looking for. I thought it was an open fantasy setting. Thanks anyway. [/quote] Your call. If you feel like making a new character that fits a slightly more savage fantasy setting, you're welcome to return! [quote=Stefan0620] Fair enough, I apologize. I misunderstood the conversation [/quote] I probably should have been more clear, my apologies. I've played D&D for over a decade and enjoy talking about it, I probably could have paid more attention to seeming less like I was trying to shoot down your idea and made it clear that I was just discussing D&D stuff. Have you read Tome of Magic? Super fun book. I like Shadow Magic even if it IS a bit underpowered, and pact magic is just super cool. If you haven't seen it, I can probably dig up a download for you if you're curious.