[quote=Larceny] Reading StuartM's post, I'm assuming he's from the UK. I don't mean to be a jerk, but in most places in America you don't need a permit to own a gun. You can just walk into a gun shop, buy a gun, and leave.'Murica [/quote] This is why you have more violent crime and murder proportionate to population than us, and for what? What do people use the guns for if not hunting? Shooting other humans. In the UK you can own a gun if you have a license for hunting, why not make it the same in america? Guns have been used a lot more for offense than for self defense. Don't want to sound rude but it's just my opinion.