[quote=thewizardguy] Who knows? Wasn't he unconscious? I don't think it would be all that hard for someone to do something to him. Especially with that fog that both me and Tyki both wanted to place in there without any prior agreement. Really, anything could have happened. [/quote] true, also i had plans with that fog damnit x_- and anyway, there's two separate groups which means that shiro and mihai'en wouldn't have known or seen creed go (also get on steam damnit)