[quote=Lucian] I was going to say something like this, but in my experience, sticking up for the guild newbs only results in a forum-wide backlash. Besides, every time I've done it, the rest of the forum ended up being right, so I've just given up. I suppose the "Accusing everyone of being Turt" thing is a bit different, though. [/quote] Thank you for your concern, but I'm not afraid to voice such opinions. I mean sorry but your whole post kind of sounds like "Don't say what you feel needs to be said, cuz then you'll be shamed by all of Spam. It's better to hide your true opinions in order to fit in" and that's kind of bullcrap. Spam shouldn't have to be that way. There tends not to be too strong of a backlash when I stick up for newbs, anyway. It's not the first time I've said something in a situation like this. Besides, I didn't say he definitely for sure [i]isn't[/i] Turt, just that he [i]might[/i] not be Turt, so we shouldn't make that assumption and make a new guy feel unwelcome when he did [i]nothing to deserve it[/i].