I may have the 'Beginning of the fall' take place during/before Retribution, so that all goes out the window...I may even have it be narrative convienience for the Blood Ravens as without their Backup, the Traitor Blood Ravens and the Black Legion are isolated the destroyed quicker...Maybee even with the help of the newly rediscovered Lamenters...Or what if the Lamenters came in ON the Judgement? then again, I kinda wanted to use their fleet to fill out some positions in the 'Protectorate's' Navy I can't bullshit as Imperial Navy Elements that the Blood Ravens were able to 'salvage'...