[quote=Azathoth] But not good ones, I am pretty [sure] Kangaroo meant the craftsman was of poor quality not financially bereft. [/quote] Good ones too :p Remember, we don't live in an age of hand-crafted and powered equipment. Craftsmen, of good quality or poor, have no control over wear and tear inside things like power drills, chainsaws, [s]nuclear cannons...[/s] etc.