[quote=samreaper] well, considering it requires the person to feel pain to make one think the illusion is real..while my char who can easily take pain or nullify the pain he feels and relishes in pain. thus he would easily figure out they're illusions *nods* [/quote] Well what if he nullified all pain but then he suddenly combust into flames? He wouldn't be able to feel is so how would he know it's fake? Plus Lobos doesn't always try to induce pain through mental abuse. He can simply say he has a clone clone fruit and make 50 clones while the real one just sneaks from behind and strikes. Buuuut that's not his fighting style most of the times xD he'll probably just go out fighting regularly at first