Basically meant to continue the conversations going on in the Zoe Quinn thread that weren't turning into a Mosh Pit. Though like people there highlighted, let's try to focus this on developers, journalists and such in general and not make our main focus the Zoe Quinn cases and the ripple effects of it. Also, once I noticed the Zoe Quinn thread was closed I'll be honest. I only skimmed through most of the posts, I wasn't going to read them in detail if I couldn't reply. But whatever it was sparking the strong argument that mad a Mod or Admin close it can we either a) Drop it, at this point it's apparent no one's convincing the other. It's gone past the "Provide your points, let's see how we both learn from this" stage of debate. b) Keep it civil, stick to the facts, avoid attacking the person etc.