[quote=Alphakoka] A large number of us got arrested because some people can't keep their mouth shut and one day that leaked into the cops. [/quote] That and I doubt most people here have the moral bankrupt sentiments required to not feel guilty about stealing that would ultimately cause leaks in such an organization. Plus, I can't imagine most people are brazen and subtle enough to pull it off if they attempted it. [quote=Awson] "A woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to produce. He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money, but he could only get together about $1,000 which is half of what it cost. He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said: “No, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from it.” So Heinz got desperate and broke into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife. Should Heinz have broken into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not?"EDIT: I'm not saying there is an obvious right answer. I'm just curious what your response would be. [/quote] I'm not really a fan of how this plays off of people's empathy, like Nex said, what if there was something going on with the seller's family that the high markup was justified? The way this is presented, it comes across that the seller is just a greedy immoral person and that we're supposed to sympathize with the thief, it's like a newspaper tactic that plays off of your emotions to elicit an emotional response. What the seller is doing is basically what a lot of other entrepreneurs do, which is buy something at cost and then sell it to make a profit. Say the drug isn't one that's highly demanded, but the seller is the only supplier and he's budgeted that he needs to mark it up X amount to make ends meet that month or help grow his business so he can supply a wider range of inventory at a reduced price to the consumer. The reason big box stores like Walmart can get away with selling stuff for ridiculously cheap (and I'm not talking about their store brand merchandise that explodes if you sneeze at it, which is manufactured from the cheapest materials and the hopes and dreams of sweatshop workers) is because they're large enough that they can offset the cost elsewhere in the store. Say they sell bags of chips for a dollar each and it costs them 2 dollars to buy them, they're banking on people buying the jeans across the store that are advertised to look like they're on sale when in reality they're the same price to sell more jeans and offset the loss of the chips. It's a pretty huge simplification of how it goes down, but that's basically how it works. Bringing the whole "is the thief justified stealing", to use myself as an example, the medicine I need to keep my disease in remission costs about $1200 for two injectors. It was more than my benefits would cover, but fortunately there's foundations out there that offset the costs for patients who need it because they know people can't realistically afford it even though it's essential for living a normal life. I couldn't afford it on my own, and at my last job when I still needed medicine but didn't have a foundation to help, I made due with a lot cheaper alternatives that didn't really do nearly as fine of a job, but it stabilized my health enough that I could hold down a job and live somewhat comfortably, even though I was basically a walking skeleton who could barely eat in fear of suffering crippling pain or spending hours in the washroom a day. Even though the medicine I needed could have instantly improved my quality of life, the thought never occurred to me to steal it, because it's wrong and the repercussions just aren't worth it. The unspoken complication of the problem in your hypothetical scenario is that the wife is obviously going to require on-going treatment; a single dose isn't going to cure her ailment, and it's uncertain if it would even make much of a difference until she was a on a routine dosage. If the thief managed to steal the single dose, or heck, let's say he managed to get the entire stock, it still wouldn't be the ongoing care the wife requires and there's a very real chance the husband is looking at a hefty fine or jail time, which sets them back way further. If the wife's going to die without the medicine, then it's better if the husband is with her providing what comfort he can in her remaining days instead of taking away her only source of income and primary pillar of support by rotting in jail for a well-intentioned but ultimately misguided attempt to save his wife. [quote=Sole] I will steal stray Kahjits and leave them in the guild. [/quote] Khajiit finds It's stench questionable.