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Okay, that's fine.
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Alaric will have some questions for you before he agrees or refuses. And it'll depend on if he's left/finished serving the tower by that point (we would eventually be allowed to do that without being branded as Ferals, right?)


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Yeah, the tower doesn't really brand someone a Feral mage unless they harm someone, are causing trouble or can't control their magic.


What of Guardians? Since we're so...er....rare.
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What of Guardians? Since we're so...er....rare.


You still aren't considered a Feral Mage... I any case I would believe. You are not a mage xD Although Guardians who kill innocents... That must be quite rare...
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Well, I will not be killing innocents.

But Guardians may or may not have tighter restrictions since...y'know. Immunity to magic has frightening potential.
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Well, I will not be killing innocents.But Guardians may or may not have tighter restrictions since...y'know. Immunity to magic has frightening potential.


I would believe so yes, but then again, you have to consider that they are immune to magic but that is it. They are normal warriors to anyone NOT using magic, so I do not know if they are a greater threat.
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Very true!

Guardians, who are exquisitely trained soldiers of the tower in hand - to - hand and bladed combat alongside other arts are not a threat at all.

Yes yes. Listen to Rayn. ^_~
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Very true!Guardians, who are exquisitely trained soldiers of the tower in hand - to - hand and bladed combat alongside other arts are not a threat at all.Yes yes. Listen to Rayn. ^_~


You have to see it this way xD Soldiers of the Royal Army probably have a same martial training if not better martial training and discipline. A single Guardian fighting another soldier is nothing more than a well trained soldier/warrior with in-depth knowledge of magic. Send a group of men to take him down and a Guardian is still as vulnerable as any other soldier/warrior.
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Actually, it depends. Soldiers are taught to fight in a unit. Which means their martial training is heavily focused on not killing the guy beside you as well. If Guardians fight in smaller groups or alone, then they'd be better at one-on-one fights.

This argument is pointless. Spies with bows, poison and daggers make armour useless. :D
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Actually, it depends. Soldiers are taught to fight in a unit. Which means their martial training is heavily focused on not killing the guy beside you as well. If Guardians fight in smaller groups or alone, then they'd be better at one-on-one fights.This argument is pointless. Spies with bows, poison and daggers make armour useless. :D


You are absolutely right, bows, daggers and poison make armor useless :P

And for the training of Guardians, I guess it depends on how you were trained and by whom. Nyirr, for example, has been brought to fight in the war against Malfear and since then has always worked as a group and never alone or a duo. Nyirr isn't so great in one vs one because of his inherent training in larger groups of at least 4-5 people.

Kotori, on the other hand, was trained to protect her Mage and defend him as best as she can, which means she has an easier time coordinating with one or two teammates and defeating a smaller group of people efficiently.

(PS: It is what I see, I might be wrong)
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Illusions mixed with Necromancy and Ranger ambushes trump all though.
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Illusions mixed with Necromancy and Ranger ambushes trump all though.


All? Probably not xD A lot? Probably...

Although it brings me to something odd... Do Illusions work on Guardians? I know that the mind reading and that kind of mental attack/domination wouldn't work, but what about actual illusions? Are Guardians still duped by them?

And for necromancy/constructs = If undead or constructs get into physical contact with a Guardian, does it disrupt the magic and "undo" them? I am simply curious to hear how this all works.
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Well, I will not be killing innocents.But Guardians may or may not have tighter restrictions since...y'know. Immunity to magic has frightening potential.


I doubt it. If I read things right, a Guardian swearing themselves to a given mage is fairly standard practice, so I presume they'd continue traveling with that mage.
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Yes yes. And she's his right hand, she'd never leave his side. XP
Rayn Night said
All? Probably not xD A lot? Probably...Although it brings me to something odd... Do Illusions work on Guardians? I know that the mind reading and that kind of mental attack/domination wouldn't work, but what about actual illusions? Are Guardians still duped by them?And for necromancy/constructs = If undead or constructs get into physical contact with a Guardian, does it disrupt the magic and "undo" them? I am simply curious to hear how this all works.

I'm pretty sure illusion magic doesn't work, but not sure about the Zombies.
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All? Probably not xD A lot? Probably...Although it brings me to something odd... Do Illusions work on Guardians? I know that the mind reading and that kind of mental attack/domination wouldn't work, but what about actual illusions? Are Guardians still duped by them?And for necromancy/constructs = If undead or constructs get into physical contact with a Guardian, does it disrupt the magic and "undo" them? I am simply curious to hear how this all works.


I wonder that too. I doubt illusions would work on them, but I don't think constructs would just collpase near them. Otherwise why didn't they just send Guardians into Malfear's ranks of undead to disrupt them and get rid of his armies?
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I wonder that too. I doubt illusions would work on them, but I don't think constructs would just collpase near them. Otherwise why didn't they just send Guardians into Malfear's ranks of undead to disrupt them and get rid of his armies?


Yes, I think that they're immune to illusions, and maybe they have an easier time against constructs? That's uncertain, I don't think magic would simply dissipate once they're near it.

Maybe constructs can't see guardians? That might make sense, maybe?
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I don't think they get anything vs constructs. I mean, if I make my water dragon and have it charge Kotori (sparring, of course), it's the same as if I grabbed a torrent of water and hit her with it. They're immune to magic, but physical objects being controlled by magic are still a problem. You're immune to magic, but Sir Isaac Newton will still kick your teeth in.
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I don't think they get anything vs constructs. I mean, if I make my water dragon and have it charge Kotori (sparring, of course), it's the same as if I grabbed a torrent of water and hit her with it. They're immune to magic, but physical objects being controlled by magic are still a problem. You're immune to magic, but Sir Isaac Newton will still kick your teeth in.


You named your Water Serpent Construct Sir Isaac Newton? Fine. I will name my sword "Apple".

And that is a question I've been mulling over. If a mage summons a wall of stone, cam I just phase through it because it's magic? It's all very peculiar.

I think you're right there, it makes sense at least.
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I don't think they get anything vs constructs. I mean, if I make my water dragon and have it charge Kotori (sparring, of course), it's the same as if I grabbed a torrent of water and hit her with it. They're immune to magic, but physical objects being controlled by magic are still a problem. You're immune to magic, but Sir Isaac Newton will still kick your teeth in.


That is why I am asking the question too. Lets take the example of the water dragon. In itself, it is, as you said, an physical element being control by magic. So that is fine, nothing really happens. But lets say that the dragon claws a Guardian. The physics of the Guardian being hit still takes place, but the construct came into contact WITH the guardian which is immune to magic... So would part of the claws fall to the ground like normal water as the magic can't be sustained?

I know it sounds really idiotic, but I have to ask xD

Edit: For the wall of stone, it is easy. They don't need magic to sustain it, just to create it, so the walls wouldn't be magic AFTER the creation.
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