[quote=Vortex] Lets counter that shall we? Lets go- Perhaps for you but it may not be for others. In any case it is besides the point its a punishment and not supposed to be fun- Two things. The first being just because you dont like a ideology doesnt mean that the country doesnt exist. The second, could you clarify as to why Communism is so horrible? Can you do better than Revans Exile?- Just because everyone is doing it doesnt mean its the right thing to do, and these people were not even soldiers who you would expect to die in war, no these were normal people trying to live a regular life- Uh... You do realise that not every Left Leaning person is a commie right? And you do realise that because of his left leaning policies he granted eqaul rights to every Australian no matter their race, creed or gender and that if he was not elected then people would be living in eqaulity for even longer? [/quote] I shall counter your counter. -You know the whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing, life in prison is cruel and unusual. -Now I admit, on paper communism seems good, but China changed it so much that its horrible. -Never said its right, I admit they where Innocent but still, I personally dont see it as a good thing as just insulting the us doesn't seem equal. Which leads me to my next thing. -Now I know that, and its good he gave equality. But at least in America (Idk about Australia) but the left wingers are typically horrible. Also I wish death on no one, and the other things he did seem great (Such as equality for Aboriginals and Women, and I wish the USA would do it to natives) but these are just some things I saw. May the man rest in piece though, as it seems he did do great things.