Posting this response to OP because for some reason I spent the time writing it all out. --- [quote=TJByrum]Everybody wants to be free, but is freedom to dangerous to be left in the hands of citizens like us?[/quote] [hider=i just got trolled didn't i]Nah.[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]What if we had the ability to track each citizen? If a kid is kidnapped we know exactly where they are, we know where they're going, and we know who has them. If we could control the population we could make sure that kid never gets kidnapped, and even they are kidnapped we have a very effective way of rescuing them. Imagine if that kid was a little girl who was about to be sexually abused by the kidnapper; isn't it better that we CONTROL the population to ensure these sick things never happen?[/quote] [hider=its b8]I feel like understanding [i]why[/i] people kidnap children is a much better solution do this problem, that doesn't involve big brother levels of no privacy.[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]What if we had a system that told us when someone was doing something illegal? What if we knew when someone was drinking and driving? We could save the life of an innocent child, or perhaps an entire family.[/quote] [hider=but ill bite]If your only concern is drunk driving why not just have automated cars?[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]Drugs don't always make you do bad things, but drugs will ALWAYS lead to violence, and we need to control the population to ensure violence is contained.[/quote] [hider=event horizon]You have to be fucking with me.[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]What if our law enforcement had the ability to search whatever they wanted? They need no warrant. Why do you want a warrant anyway? Do you have something to hide? If you're an innocent person you have nothing to hide. In my eyes, if you request a warrant then you're hiding something.[/quote] [hider=i just]Nah, if I let the 5-0 into my place whenever I wanted the place would look like a pigpen-- they'd leave the place in a pigsty. (Get it, because cops are pigs *Black Panther Fist*)[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]Imagine if we had the ability to immediately flag and arrest potential terrorists.[/quote] [hider=cant even]Arresting someone who hasn't committed a crime is arresting an innocent person. Maybe instead of using profiles to arrest more people so they can fill up more private jails and prisons, we should use what we know about crime to improve communities where it's prevalent and more likely to occur (protip: this does not involve giving the cops more guns).[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]How many people live in poverty and continue to spend taxpayers money on drugs?[/quote] [hider=literally]I don't know, let's ask the Wall Street Banker doing blow off of a hooker's tits, or any CEO from a company that recently got a government bail-out-- Oh!! You said [i]"live in poverty'[/i] I thought you said [i]'thrive off poverty'[/i]. Well, probably a few to be realistic-- I'll assume you're referring to foodstamps and TANF and the horrible, drug addicts who take advantage of good, hard working American's money! Several states have implemented a system for testing for addictions when applying for welfare (Florida, Ohio, Utah, and Kentucky among them), and they have found absolutley shocking result! In fact a whooping average of around [url=http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/welfare.asp]2.6%[/url] of all recipients tested positive! 2.6% of people who received welfare used drugs, for everyone else it was a waste of time and money. [/hider] [quote=TJByrum]Why are people against drug tests for welfare and food stamps? Why would you deny a drug test?[/quote] [hider=gr8 b8 m8]Because it's an absolute waste of taxpayer money and needlessly stigmatizes those with a disease primarily created by the government (looking at you Oliver North, Reagan). Why don't we use the money we could save to open some free drug rehabilitation clinics? Oh wait that would actually be solving the problem.[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]Are you spending the money that you supposedly don't have on illegal substances?[/quote] [hider=it's from a month ago why am i responding]Yep. Poor person here, can confirm we're all actually super well off, living off the hard work of people with jobs and we spend all our time smoking crack.[/hider] [quote=TJByrum]I believe a BETTER world is a SAFE world, but a SAFE world is only possible through CONTROL, NOT FREEDOM.[/quote] [hider=yeah i just got trolled]I actually feel like this whole thing was a joke. 9/10, made me respond.[/hider] --- Sometimes you just need to do things without any purpose.