[quote=Arthanus]
Well, that does make a bit more sense, but at the same time although the a Patron saint would still be an incredibly strong human, although still a human so maybe that would be at the Expert level along with the high level spirits but not in the godly/angelic spirits just yet. But going with the character's younger age and split in training I would still prefer you start at the Journeyman level with the magic
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allright, I supose, but he has been working on this one thing for the last 3 years or whatever.