Yeah I'm good with that, Carolina should be the bottom or if they go the other way, put him towards the top but just under a few others, make him think he can be number one, it would really irk him. I think they would select him for a second in command or something, give him the power to assist in leading but never to lead. But I defer to your judgement. I think Penn is a good fit for leader though, he's calm and collected.