[quote=@Darkspleen] You're killing me man! =P[/quote] No worries, I'm not that mean, although chances are, you will have one or two estates outside of county where the majority of your holdings are. But like I said earlier, those lords can choose to be loyal either to their count or their family if they are put in that position. [quote]Also, I figured the von Eisenburg holdings would be split up amongst counties. Considering that a different branch of the family is off in Saxony that really isn't *that* bad. [/quote] You won't roleplay as that other branch, though, just the ones within the duchy. Same goes for every other member of the family that leaves the duchy and this goes for all players, me included. You can marginally mention them doing something but not actively control them.