[quote=@Kidd] "A discussion (albeit a fruitless one) about feminism! Ahhh, SJWs, oh nooo!" Though, as I'm reading through, I gotta applaud Jozarin for actually being educated about this. Studying this stuff in an academic / professional setting amounts to basically everything they're saying. I've taken no gender classes, but as an anthropology major, much of this is covered at basic level courses. Granted, there [i]is[/i] plenty of evidence for sexism within the game industry, but men tend to dismiss women's first hand accounts. I know I'll regret saying anything because meninism is a word now, but there it is. [quote=@Keyguyperson] I still find the entire idea of us arguing here pointless. As I said before, if everything said by The Patriarch is true, then Feminism, Men's Rights Activism, and Egalitarianism are all the exact same thing. [/quote] Yeah, basically. But I've never actually seen MRA do anything for men. They seem to be more "anti-feminism" than they are pro-men, which is a shame because it'd have potential otherwise. [/quote] Why, thanlk you, I don't have any real academic experience in the area apart from a semester-long sociology/psychology course in highschool. I can't find any evidence of misogyny [i]in[/i] the games development industry, only from the game community ("professional" and amateur) and the tech industry at large, being directed towards female game develomers. As for the MRA is more anti-feminist than pro-men, well, that is why I stopped being an MRA. [quote=@The Patriarch] [quote=@Keyguyperson] I still find the entire idea of us arguing here pointless. As I said before, if everything said by The Patriarch is true, then Feminism, Men's Rights Activism, and Egalitarianism are all the exact same thing. [/quote] My biggest gripe with feminism is that it uses bully-tactics to shame people into doing what they want and spreads lies and are hypocrites. I don't have a problem with women, I have plenty of female friends who I respect and I have many female coworkers. But I will never respect a woman who is a bitch just like I will never respect a man who is an asshole. Feminists have encouraged bitchy behavior plenty of times thinking that it's empowering. [/quote] Oh, the [b]irony[/b]!