[quote=@Lord Wraith] [quote=@The Patriarch] [quote=@Lord Wraith] What do you mean by the sexual objectification argument? There's not much to argue there, sexual objectification is very real and consistently happens in media everyday. [/quote] Some of the claims are debatable and then there's the flaw in the argument that only women get sexually objectified. I would like an example please [/quote] Your mistake there is assuming I meant only women get sexually objectified. Both genders are sexually objectified however the majority of it happens to women. Look at the magazines lined up by a checkout in a grocery store. Covers for magazines such as Cosmo or a fashion or fitness magazine have objectified models on them, generally skimply clad and photoshopped to fit an 'ideal' figure. The porn industry thrives on sexual objectification and media in general. The world isn't exactly lacking in examples. [/quote] But here's the flaw in the argument, I have been exposed to these imagery and yet I have never felt insignificant or less than and do you know why? It's because I know that what I see in the media doesn't reflect who I am. I have talked with plenty of men who agree that even though men are sexually objectified, they don't care because they aren't insecure about themselves or their appearance.