[quote=@The Patriarch] [quote=@Hillan] I'm not heated, curious, on the other hand. You said men didn't take it personally, implying that women do. Which only leads me to believe that you would think men are better than women? The questions are relevant because you made them relevant with your previously mentioned statement. It's perfectly fine for you to go on a crusade against Gay couples, and it's fine for others to argue with you on it. That's how democrazy and the freedom of speech works. [/quote] Fine allow me to clarify, I would tell a man the exact same thing I would tell a woman when it comes sexual objectification, which is don't let it get to you and don't waste your time on that stuff. I mentioned women because I only see women complain about sexual objectification. I believe in equality which includes equal treatment and no special privileges, which includes being very blunt and realistic. Never once did I hint at that I say women are to blame for rape and frankly I find the question going a little too far especially for this forum. I have to agree with Kablamicus, this debate is over, sorry but I have to post and I have somewhere to be soon and I don't want to be late. [/quote] Perhaps if your gender was constantly displayed as love interests, sex objects and eye candy you might feel differently. How is asking for the depiction of women in media to be something else a special privilege? Sure friends, family and loved ones are great influences on a person, but the fact remains the allure of Hollywood and fame is over powering. Why would anyone want to be normal when if they looked a certain way they could be famous, or have hundreds of admirers? Society doesn't teach us to be comfortable with who were are, what we look like and where we come from, it encourages us to look a certain way, act a certain way and strive for money and power. And it does this through sex, which of course leads to sexual objectification. Sure you can turn a blind eye to it, ignore that it happens and tell people to toughen up and get over it. The fact remains that the majority of people disagree and that industry only gets away with it because sex sells. Just because you and your 'friends' can ignore and not let it bother you doesn't make it right for all those it does negatively affect and that's the root of the problem here. The fact it does do harm leading to eating disorders and insecurity over rules anything else. I'm not just talking women either, it affects men too and while as you said you just ignore it and move along great for you, but being 'blunt' isn't going to fix anything and what you do is anything but realistic.