[quote=@Rin] ...Yeah, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree about vampire concepts I guess. ^^; Honestly, just... Even with the weaknesses and the stuff you cribbed from WoD, they just seem more like a weird magical race than vampires to me. Sorry. [/quote] Meh. Oh well, it seems I was misinformed as well, and I'm trying to honestly remember how Vitae was anti-magical as well, due to the uses.......Vitae is basically a vampire's blood and they never exactly die either, due to Vamparic immortality, a stake will send them into Topor but you'll need to decapacitate them.