You two have your characters set, anyway. We're all going to be playing together though, right? So I may as well get in on this discussion. I'm not up on what Vampy's doing. Or if Navyvet, sloth or others are still interested. But I pretty much know I'm throwing a Tzimisce into the mix. An old Slavic pagan most likely. Maybe an old tribal Knjaz or something. I mean so far we have a warrior and a scholar between the two of you. So, I'm guessing I should take on the the social aspect. A tribal leader would fit that role very well. Via Diabolis (Road of the Devil) would certainly be appropriate for what I'm doing. And I could distinguish it from Vampy's idea by having my character take a more gallant and hedonistic approach to the road. Having been a vampiric Voivode would also be appropriate. But losing that status for some reason, would ultimately be more interesting. Perhaps a Vassal Voivode, one who came into power serving a greater Voivode and has been sent to establish a powerbase in the west, ending up in Rome. I think that could work out well.