[quote=@Partisan] To the north is the icey ocean, south of that is the Whitelands. West of the Whitelands is the Chesfield hills, which only recede close to the coastline and has several passages. Then more west is the Tatar/Turk tribes, horsemen and stuff. More west of them is other kingdoms, but Borhilonians have never been there. The rest is as it was. Erm, Inertia, kinda waiting for Valhalla and Potato and anyone else still wanting to join but the IC should be up soon. [/quote] I'm guessing neither pic is correct? So whiterun and the king of borhilon seperatec by the chesfield mountains and tribes?