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Józef is pretty awesome.

Also, the attention to historical detail in everyone's posts so far is just fantastic and keeping me on my toes (read: my family is bewildered and a little worried by my sudden interest in Nazi death camps), so well done all.

@Keyguyperson: do you think Klaus should notice Józef at the diner or nah?
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Hm, I've gotten a little further in surprisingly little time on Aaron's possible motivation. He's a closeted homosexual man with a hebrew first name in Nazi Germany, one would think he has enough suspicion and pressure on him as it is. I'd say he fears that defecting would be the final nail in his coffin and that they'd send him to a concentration camp? Regardless of whether or not his fears would be fixed in truth, I'd say that's enough to make a man want to save his own skin. Thoughts, anyone?


Ironic because @Adriane and I were just discussing what to do with Mat, and one plot idea was to have him arrested and killed because he's homosexual (which would give Klaus and potentially Aaron a personal reason to fight against the Third Reich).

I like the idea, with one suggested modification: Aaron is gay, and a high-ranking SS official knows that he is gay, and the only thing between him and a concentration camp is his agreeing to keep doing the medical research that other doctors can't do, given their lack of experience with the magical power source.
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Ironic because @Adriane and I were just discussing what to do with Mat, and one plot idea was to have him arrested and killed because he's homosexual (which would give Klaus and potentially Aaron a personal reason to fight against the Third Reich).

I like the idea, with one suggested modification: Aaron is gay, and a high-ranking SS official knows that he is gay, and the only thing between him and a concentration camp is his agreeing to keep doing the medical research that other doctors can't do, given their lack of experience with the magical power source.


(we were also having a really good laugh because you had no idea Mat was gay oh the irony oh my god)

If they were seizing the lab equipment and getting rid of the scientists, then there would be no one left to need his doctor skills (unless they were gonna keep monitoring the scientists in isolation or something in which case nevermind) so they decide to ship him off to a camp and ros hears this when she hears about the lab closing? Would he defect if she told him they didn't need him and were going to kill him? Doesn't seem like he'd have any other option...
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Ironic because @Adriane and I were just discussing what to do with Mat, and one plot idea was to have him arrested and killed because he's homosexual (which would give Klaus and potentially Aaron a personal reason to fight against the Third Reich).

I like the idea, with one suggested modification: Aaron is gay, and a high-ranking SS official knows that he is gay, and the only thing between him and a concentration camp is his agreeing to keep doing the medical research that other doctors can't do, given their lack of experience with the magical power source.


Blackmail, I love it. Sounds fantastic. Maybe I should get him involved with Mat, haha. That'd give Aaron one hell of a reason to fight the Third Reich.

Maybe I can schedule a threatening meeting with said SS officer during the raid? I've already got the dialogue forming in my mind.
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(we were also having a really good laugh because you had no idea Mat was gay oh the irony oh my god)

If they were seizing the lab equipment and getting rid of the scientists, then there would be no one left to need his doctor skills (unless they were gonna keep monitoring the scientists in isolation or something in which case nevermind) so they decide to ship him off to a camp and ros hears this when she hears about the lab closing? Would he defect if she told him they didn't need him and were going to kill him? Doesn't seem like he'd have any other option...


They might keep Aaron around because they'd want him to divert his attention to magical experiments on human subjects (some way to transfer his abilities to other men to improve the army's capabilities, for example). Also it's unlikely Klaus could have stolen all the lab equipment, so they'd have enough notes and documentation to recreate the circumstances that created the magical black hole in the first place.
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Blackmail, I love it. Sounds fantastic. Maybe I should get him involved with Mat, haha. That'd give Aaron one hell of a reason to fight the Third Reich.

Maybe I can schedule a threatening meeting with said SS officer during the raid? I've already got the dialogue forming in my mind.


One step ahead of ya. After Klaus gets back from lunch, an SS officer is going to pay the Zauber team a visit, and I'm sure he'll have tons to say to Aaron once he's finished talking to Klaus.

Also, yes. Aaron SHOULD be involved with Mat. That'd be the tipping point for him, I'm sure.
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One step ahead of ya. After Klaus gets back from lunch, an SS officer is going to pay the Zauber team a visit, and I'm sure he'll have tons to say to Aaron once he's finished talking to Klaus.

Also, yes. Aaron SHOULD be involved with Mat. That'd be the tipping point for him, I'm sure.


Oh, absolutely. It's settled, then! Shall I make some edits to my original post?

Also, @Adriane, do you mean I'm oblivious to Mat's gayness? Haha, I have no idea how I could have known but hey, glad I could make you laugh XD

...That came out saltier than intended, haha.
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Also, yes. Aaron SHOULD be involved with Mat. That'd be the tipping point for him, I'm sure.

Oh, absolutely. It's settled, then! Shall I make some edits to my original post?


I 100% support this decision and can tell you it is absolutely the correct decision to make this would be great.
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Oh, absolutely. It's settled, then! Shall I make some edits to my original post?

Also, @Adriane, do you mean I'm oblivious to Mat's gayness? Haha, I have no idea how I could have known but hey, glad I could make you laugh XD

...That came out saltier than intended, haha.


Nah, she meant that our separate brainstorming sessions wonderfully and coincidentally resulted in the same idea.

You could, or you could just make their relationship apparent in the next post when the SS officer comes the lab and intimidates them all.
Klaus definitely has no idea Aaron and Mat are involved, because he's a) mildly autistic and can't read people and b) Aaron and Mat would be low key as hell to avoid arrest.
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Nah, she meant that our separate brainstorming sessions wonderfully and coincidentally resulted in the same idea.

You could, or you could just make their relationship apparent in the next post when the SS officer comes the lab and intimidates them all.
Klaus definitely has no idea Aaron and Mat are involved, because he's a) mildly autistic and can't read people and b) Aaron and Mat would be low key as hell to avoid arrest.


Ah, of course. I got it this time! Heh, I've been having trouble understanding people all day.

Will do, though you can't stop me from adding gay undertones to my post for my own amusement! (Also 'gay undertones' sounds like a really right-wing warning on a movie and it shouldn't be as funny as it is to me right now XD)

I'm all for oblivious Klaus. I can see him now, very confused and awkward while Aaron is writhing in grief upon hearing his boyfriend was killed.

Also, why exactly is the lab being raided? What do they want? I'm not sure if this was mentioned before but today it's like everything people tell me needs to be stamped on my forehead for me to understand, haha.
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Józef is pretty awesome.

Also, the attention to historical detail in everyone's posts so far is just fantastic and keeping me on my toes (read: my family is bewildered and a little worried by my sudden interest in Nazi death camps), so well done all.

@Keyguyperson: do you think Klaus should notice Józef at the diner or nah?


It could be interesting, I'd love to try my hand at damage control.

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Thank you, I appreciate that.

On a totally separate note I'm so excited for Ros and Józef to interact he's going to hate her so much at first it's gonna be great.


I googled "Polish racial slurs for Germans" to be prepared.

Also, I'm loving these ideas for Aaron and Mat. When/if Józef realizes that they're gay it'll be fun writing from his point of view. Being Catholic up until now, he'll be trying to choose between his old views and considering the relationship wrong or ending up accepting homosexuality because the Nazis oppose it.

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Ah, of course. I got it this time! Heh, I've been having trouble understanding people all day.

Will do, though you can't stop me from adding gay undertones to my post for my own amusement! (Also 'gay undertones' sounds like a really right-wing warning on a movie and it shouldn't be as funny as it is to me right now XD)

I'm all for oblivious Klaus. I can see him now, very confused and awkward while Aaron is writhing in grief upon hearing his boyfriend was killed.

Also, why exactly is the lab being raided? What do they want? I'm not sure if this was mentioned before but today it's like everything people tell me needs to be stamped on my forehead for me to understand, haha.


It's to get at the data and the like after Klaus and Aaron refuse to hand it over to the SS. I think, haven't checked since I'm going to bed, like, right now.
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Nah, she meant that our separate brainstorming sessions wonderfully and coincidentally resulted in the same idea.


^^^^yes

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Will do, though you can't stop me from adding gay undertones to my post for my own amusement! (Also 'gay undertones' sounds like a really right-wing warning on a movie and it shouldn't be as funny as it is to me right now XD)


HAHA gay undertones i'm sorry that's hilarious

Also, why exactly is the lab being raided? What do they want? I'm not sure if this was mentioned before but today it's like everything people tell me needs to be stamped on my forehead for me to understand, haha.


Because they discovered magic and the German's want to use it as a weapon and when they come knocking to ask about developing weapons Klaus seems very uncooperative so they decide to raid the lab because they want magical weapons even if Klaus and the team won't make them
Key's got the idea
I believe that's it ?
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"I googled "Polish racial slurs for Germans" to be prepared." @Keyguyperson

Lines that will only ever be uttered on RPG, next to "This is the last time I write "she looked like she'd stepped out of a Nazi propaganda poster" as a compliment, I promise."

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I googled "Polish racial slurs for Germans" to be prepared.

Also, I'm loving these ideas for Aaron and Mat. When/if Józef realizes that they're gay it'll be fun writing from his point of view. Being Catholic up until now, he'll be trying to choose between his old views and considering the relationship wrong or ending up accepting homosexuality because the Nazis oppose it.


I can't wait for this moment.

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It's to get at the data and the like after Klaus and Aaron refuse to hand it over to the SS. I think, haven't checked since I'm going to bed, like, right now.
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Because they discovered magic and the German's want to use it as a weapon and when they come knocking to ask about developing weapons Klaus seems very uncooperative so they decide to raid the lab because they want magical weapons even if Klaus and the team won't make them
I believe that's it ?


Ah, of course. Did this refusal happen before, or will it happen the night of the raid?

Also I hope I don't come across as too clueless, I just like to be sure of what I'm writing about to avoid IC errors, eh?
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"I googled "Polish racial slurs for Germans" to be prepared." @Keyguyperson

Lines that will only ever be uttered on RPG, next to "This is the last time I write "she looked like she'd stepped out of a Nazi propaganda poster" as a compliment, I promise."


Pfft, I just built up the most incriminating search history of my life, with such gems as: "What chemical was used in Nazi chemical showers" and "german anti-gay slurs" man I'm glad bill C-51 hasn't been passed yet

(forgive the double posts, sorry)

***EDIT Well whoops it looks like that bill passed, h e h
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Ah, of course. Did this refusal happen before, or will it happen the night of the raid?

Also I hope I don't come across as too clueless, I just like to be sure of what I'm writing about to avoid IC errors, eh?


No it's all good, I believe it's just about to happen in Kierke's next post.

Also I ended up googling Josef Mengele's eye color so
not quite as incriminating but definitely weird af
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Pfft, I just built up the most incriminating search history of my life, with such gems as: "What chemical was used in Nazi chemical showers" and "german anti-gay slurs" man I'm glad bill C-51 hasn't been passed yet

(forgive the double posts, sorry)

***EDIT Well whoops it looks like that bill passed, h e h


You're all rapidly becoming my favorite people on this website.

Post coming up soon.
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Oh dear, I'm looking at Mengele's experimentation with twins now. Truly horrifying stuff, here. Maybe I can use that later.

Writers really are incredibly self-incriminating out of context, aren't they?
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Oh dear, I'm looking at Mengele's experimentation with twins now. Truly horrifying stuff, here. Maybe I can use that later.

Writers really are incredibly self-incriminating out of context, aren't they?


I just finished a book about Mengele's experiments and the hunt for Mengele, (it's called Children of the Flames, would highly recommend) and it's got my blood boiling.

Not to get morally righteous in an RP, but there will be some good gruesome, magically-enhanced Nazi-whomping in later arcs.

Other notes:
- Karl Genzken is a real person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Genzken
- I decided against Klaus recognizing Józef in the diner, because he's a) pretty shellshocked by Ros running out on him, b) it's out of character for him to be aware of his surroundings like that and c) even if he did see Józef, he has no reason to suspect him of spying on him just yet.
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Oh dear, I'm looking at Mengele's experimentation with twins now. Truly horrifying stuff, here. Maybe I can use that later.

Writers really are incredibly self-incriminating out of context, aren't they?


It's a sign of high-quality, I believe. If you're gonna tackle the big and a little bit sick bits of reality, you gotta do your research. Let's just hope if the CIA decides we're a bit too incriminating we at least end up locked in together with some paper and pens.
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