@Dj No problem as I'm said totally here if you need me @Shien it was either try or die, she tried. I don't think her words are all powerful and never have its why she uses them sparingly and i always tell people she uses them on that they may not work because they are imperfect. Don't try and make me feel bad OOC because yeah I was pretty sure it would fail but IC Thaler has no weapons and no other way of stopping a Yth of this size. I'm playing her realistically and realistic people are flawed. A quote I heard recently is rather befitting of Thaler in fact, 'I'm made up of flaws held together by good intentions'. I don't and never will play an all powerful never makes a mistake always wins servant of the light that never falters because they're boring. And my comment about her sending it to bite Rilon's chibi form was her plan, which is no better or worse than making her give up the sword or not sanctifying the area or so on. Just want you to realize just because she's making mistakes doesn't mean I'm delusional or thick, I'm playing as her not as a computer controlling her. She's flawed, broken and suicidal, your pretty lucky (it took me 3 days to convince her!) she didn't just leap on the Yth and let it rip her in two. @All Just because Thaler's acting like an imbecile doesn't mean I as her player can't see what she's doing, just thought I ought to point that out. DISCLAIMER: As the internet doesn't carry emotion, I'm not implying (or trying to imply anyway) anything nor am I trying to have an argument with anyone, just felt that there was some stuff that needed pointing out.