Alrighty, let's hold on everyone and try to sort this one out a bit. [quote=@Dymian]And while he does have muscle mass on his side, she has flexibility and a metal cage to do the damage for her. Now, we could drag this on forever until one of us finally wins, a battle of the brains and characters, or we can seek a compromise. I'm very open to ideas.[/quote] While I do understand where you're coming from, I think honestly Deon would win this fight. I was looking over both Character Sheets and Elizabeth's doesn't mention anything on fighting experience - at least in hand-to-hand. Now, if it were an accuracy contest or something like that, I could see her pulling an advantage as the sheet mentions her learning to use firearms while Deon's doesn't. However, Deon's been fighting in the Spit for an extended amount of time, is currently the top-tier fighter in the cage matches and has been regularly using Hand of the Devil for just about a year (if my math is correct - which it usually isn't :P). Under those circumstances, I don't see how he [i]couldn't[/i] beat her. Could she land a couple punches in? Of course, the guy's not super fast or anything, and no one's trying to weaken yours, or Yoshi's character in any way. It's just pitting two specific characters together and figuring out a solution by going over their individual skills and experiences.