[quote=@yoshua171] So about 80 yards in 10 seconds in terms of speed. This is going to be...interesting. Also, when he turns into bat form, is he larger than normal, or is he a normal sized bat? [/quote] He is the size of a black chicken. LOL I dunno I haven't read up on the Gangrel in awhile and I don't have any of my VtM books in close proximity so I cannot tell you.