[@Terminal] Yes that is what I am talking about. if my humans run off and make an independent nation the C.E. gets upset. The two Majors are separate from C.E., they aren't humans. This isn't a game rule Terminal, I'm not saying you can't do any of this. I'm telling you that's how the Nation acts. When their own species splinters off and refuses to be ruled by their Nation, they don't like that. So gain an ally, or else when you're found, you'll be fought