[quote=Sauron The Dark Lord] I agree in your judgement, a former collective who was once large and wide, now small and pathetic. [/quote] There are still quite a few Tindrel kicking around, mostly on in Outremer but the Fleet took them to work elsewhere too. Something happened to them when Humanity glassed their home-world that made them like little puppies. They've lost all national spirit and follow humankind around, generally doing all the grunt work and being downtrodden. It's only recently that notions of being truly free are spawning in their minds.